Dec. 22, 2021

Hot Dogs at Disney World

Hot Dogs at Disney World

Hot dog! Our special guest James from Hot Dogs At Disney is here to tell us all about life as Disney World’s premier wiener artiste, and help us pick some of the best quick serve restaurants around the parks. Plus Disneyland after Dark, a Home Alone bar in Nashville, and more strange Christmas cheer from around the world. Toast your bun and shake up the mustard, It’s time to hit the trail with the Gold Key Adventurers Society!

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Hot dog! Our special guest James from Hot Dogs At Disney is here to tell us all about life as Disney World’s premier wiener artiste, and help us pick some of the best quick serve restaurants around the parks. Plus Disneyland after Dark, a Home Alone bar in Nashville, and more strange Christmas cheer from around the world. Toast your bun and shake up the mustard, It’s time to hit the trail with the Gold Key Adventurers Society!

The wonderful thing about the wide world of theme park fandom is there’s so much to love, and plenty of room for any niche interest, no matter how specific. There are Disney fan sites dedicated to bathrooms, buses, boats, trash cans, goats, and non functioning animatronics. Every one of them is wonderful and fascinating at first glance, you wonder how anyone can find that much of interest in these little details. Then you look deeper, and realize just how much thought goes into the design of these little details, and the huge variety that’s been created to make these imaginary worlds feel real and lived in. This week’s guest elevates the humble theme park hot dog to a veritable art form. -

  • Disneyland After Dark events returning in 2022 
  • Home Alone Bar in Nashville’s Noelle hotel
  • Strange Christmas traditions:Mummering in Newfoundland and the UK
  • Strange Christmas traditions:Mouse Hole England’s Stargazy Pie
  • Hot Dogs At Disney

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Hot Dogs News


[00:00:00] Dan: Welcome back to another meeting of the Gold Key Adventurers Society. My name is Dan Leonard and joining me this week in the studio is Heather Straight-

[00:00:07] Heather: Hello 

[00:00:08] Dan: Jeff Williams-

[00:00:09] Jeff: Howdy y'all

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Well guys, it's the holiday season a time when my mind turns mainly to one topic, food

[00:00:35] Jeff: why does it have to be the holiday season?

[00:00:37] Dan: well, I mean... 

[00:00:39] Jeff: what are you thinking about the rest of the year?

[00:00:40] Dan: Food, but... 

[00:00:42] Jeff: but now it's holiday food. 

[00:00:43] Dan: Yeah, exactly. It's festive food. I have an excuse to over eat. It's practically 

expected of me, right?

[00:00:49] Heather: true.

[00:00:50] Jeff: Yup. 

[00:00:51] Dan: It's called being jolly. I've got to be jolly and being jolly means eating too much, apparently. 

[00:00:58] Jeff: Then I'm jolly [00:01:00] as hell. 

[00:01:00] Dan: Me too. Well, we've covered Disney world table service, restaurants and bars, pretty exhaustively in the past. And this week we're taking a look at the hidden gems of the quick service category with the help of a very special guest. But first let's take a look at the week's travel news, starting with some pretty exciting news out of Disneyland, a very popular Disneyland after dark events are confirmed to be returning in 2022. So that's the Sweethearts night in February, the Villains Night and Star Wars night.

[00:01:31] Heather: Star Wars Night. 

Have been gone since COVID or did they have them in 21? I can't even remember now. 

[00:01:38] Dan: I don't think they 

[00:01:39] Heather: I don't think they have, I think you're 


[00:01:41] Dan: weren't open in 21. Whee they 

[00:01:43] Heather: Oh, that's true. They were closed for half it. Yeah. They were for a 

[00:01:48] Dan: Well, 

[00:01:48] Jeff: I think they did have one. I don't know. I just made that up that Hedging my bets. I could either be wrong or right.

[00:01:54] Dan: Well, because those, events take place in February the sweetheart nights will be February 1, [00:02:00] 3, 8, 

10, and 14. 

[00:02:02] Heather: Wow. quite a few of them. 

[00:02:04] Dan: tickets are already on sale. They went on sale December 9th. So I'm going to guess that they are probably sold out for that one. 

The villains night is March 8th and 10th. Those tickets go on sale January 11 and star wars night is may three, obviously the fourth. And for some reason, the 27th and. 

[00:02:24] Heather: that's the traditional star wars party date? 

[00:02:29] Dan: Yes. 

[00:02:29] Heather: The 27th of may. 

[00:02:31] Dan: May the 

[00:02:31] Jeff: 27th be with you!

[00:02:33] Heather: Yes 

[00:02:34] Dan: That old chestnut, 

Those tickets go on sale also beginning in January 11th. Conspicuously missing this time is the eight didn't. They do an eighties night party. That was pretty popular. 

[00:02:43] Heather: they did. 

[00:02:45] Jeff: I don't know. I don't keep up with that park.

[00:02:46] Dan: Looks like they're noot doing that one this time. 

[00:02:48] Heather: Didn't they do one that was like a Dapper theme... I can't remember what it was called, but 

[00:02:52] Jeff: Oh yeah. That was the sweethearts one I think

[00:02:55] Heather: oh, okay.

[00:02:56] Dan: Yes. Yeah, so they 

[00:02:57] Jeff: date night at the park or whatever. 

[00:02:59] Dan: yep. There's [00:03:00] special 

After hours events themed for sweethearts Night. They're going to have special fireworks 

and projections, jazz ensemble on board the 

mark Twain, riverboat, other live entertainment around the park. There'll be a Royal ball and a dance party with 

a DJ heh heh ball

[00:03:16] Jeff: ball 

[00:03:17] Dan: Another thing that's really popular at these events is they have characters out in meeting that you might not always get a chance to see. So sweetheart nights they'll have everybody's favorite couples out and about in the parks that you can take pictures 

[00:03:29] Jeff: like Peter and Smee 

[00:03:32] Dan: yeah. That popular fan ship.

I bet ya. I bet if you go looking in the dark corners of the internet

[00:03:38] Jeff: There's some fan fiction out there.

[00:03:39] Heather: Yes. 

[00:03:40] Dan: that, oh, 

[00:03:42] Heather: No.

[00:03:42] Dan: I'm done. I'm done for the night guys. You finish 

[00:03:44] Jeff: Good. Goodnight, everybody. 

[00:03:45] Dan: I don't want to think anymore. Plus other fun photo

opportunities featuring romantic scenes from iconic Disney films special decor 

food and beverage offerings around the park. And you can get into the parks during, at 5:00 PM with just the ticket and no theme [00:04:00] park reservation required. Villains night is pretty self explanatory 

[00:04:05] Heather: villains.

[00:04:06] Dan: there's villains. They're going to have the cauldron, which is going to be a cabaret featuring villainous virtuosos showing off their

[00:04:12] Heather: Oh, a cabaret.

[00:04:15] Dan: talents through song and dance. Ursula's seaside sing along ,an underworld 

dance party, photo backdrops Henchmen and villains at special locations around the park for photos plus food and beverage.

[00:04:30] Heather: I do like food and beverage. 

[00:04:31] Dan: Yeah, 

[00:04:32] Jeff: I only like one. 

[00:04:33] Dan: I feel like we spend all of our time talking 

[00:04:36] Heather: do spend a lot of time talking about that.

[00:04:39] Dan: yeah, 

[00:04:40] Jeff: Oh, what else are we going to talk about?

[00:04:41] Heather: That's fair. 

[00:04:42] Jeff: So at these after hours, do you get to see these fun couples standing behind a hedge row?

[00:04:49] Dan: yeah, probably. Yeah. They will be socially distanced although from the photos of what some of those characters out and about at the Disneyland's Christmas party 

[00:04:59] Heather: They [00:05:00] had some great characters. 

[00:05:02] Dan: Yeah. So it doesn't suffer too much from the distancing, 

 Star wars night. They're going to have a special fireworks themed show, March of the First order, featuring Captain phasma and her stormtroopers will place aroundMain Street USA I assume, a galactic dance party because that's totally Star Wars characters around the park. 

[00:05:23] Heather: That's a, that's an interesting thing at Disneyland is that their Galaxy's edge is in Disneyland park and 

[00:05:29] Jeff: That's so weird. like, if on the other side of frontier land was Galaxy's Edge

[00:05:34] Heather: and Stormtroopers, marching down main street seems like 

such a 

[00:05:38] Jeff: feels wrong. 

[00:05:39] Heather: but I'd like see it 

[00:05:41] Jeff: Yeah. I dunno, feels wrong 

[00:05:43] Dan: Maybe they'll stick to Tomorrowland or something. 

[00:05:45] Jeff: will be the first time I actually see their Galaxy's Edge 

[00:05:49] Heather: Oh, that's right. Crazy. 

[00:05:51] Dan: And it looks like if you purchased tickets for the events in 2020, and those were canceled, you can call guest ticket [00:06:00] sales by January 8th and they will exchange those tickets for the 2022 event.

[00:06:04] Heather: Oh, nice. That's cool.

[00:06:06] Dan: so they're making good on that, which is very nice. 

[00:06:08] Jeff: Surprising too. 

[00:06:10] Heather: really is. 

[00:06:10] Jeff: I wouldn't. If I was them, I'd want to make some money. 

[00:06:13] Dan: Right. So, yeah, but that's nice. That's exciting. And those are super popular events. Like I said, I'm 

[00:06:17] Heather: They really are. They sell out.

[00:06:19] Dan: yeah. They're four hour long parties after the park is closed.

[00:06:23] Heather: Pricing starts at $134 per person. 

[00:06:27] Dan: You do get in three hours before the start of the parties, so you do get an eight hour day for that plus the special party events. You know, I can see It's not cheap, bu

[00:06:39] Jeff: they don't screw around with those after hours. They somehow Disneyland always out does Disney world with their parties. I don't know why I don't like it but they do.

[00:06:48] Heather: it does. It is what happens. 

[00:06:49] Dan: yes, that is true. They are very good at that. Hit up your favorite key to the world, travel advisor, if you want to go visit one of those after hours. 

[00:06:57] Heather: Yeah. I get on it quick. Those are going to sell out.

[00:06:59] Dan: [00:07:00] They are fabulous events. 

 Well, this event is pretty fabulous in a different way. And it dovetails on, do you guys remember last year we talked about this weird tradition in Wales where they carry around a stick puppet with a skull of a horse on it and it's and, 

[00:07:15] Jeff: how do whales carry anything? They don't even have hands. 

[00:07:19] Dan: Wales, Jeff called Mari Lwyd


[00:07:22] Heather: yeah, 

[00:07:23] Jeff: Is that what it's called Dan? 

[00:07:24] Heather: Get Can you 

[00:07:25] Dan: Well, it's spelled L w. Y D. So you tell me how it's pronounced jeff.

[00:07:28] Heather:

[00:07:29] Jeff: Who you read? 

[00:07:30] Heather: That would be lewd. 

[00:07:31] Jeff: Silent L I can liver around

[00:07:34] Dan: So they carry it around from house to house and knock on the door and they do a rhyming battle. 

[00:07:39] Jeff: yes.

[00:07:39] Dan: And if you lose 

[00:07:41] Heather: a rap battle. 

[00:07:42] Dan: Yeah. It's like a rap battle. And if you, and if you lose the horse is allowed to come into your house and you have to give the people, carrying the horse booze to get rid of them. 

[00:07:51] Jeff: So it's like trick or treat, but, horse 

[00:07:54] Heather: and booze,

[00:07:55] Jeff: and booze, 

[00:07:56] Dan: Yeah. 

[00:07:57] Jeff: me booze or we'll f*** your s*** up. 

[00:07:59] Dan: yeah, [00:08:00] so that derives from a tradition, in the United Kingdom and it's 

Something that is still carried on in the weird island of Newfoundland, 

Canada, there is called mummering. Have you ever heard of


[00:08:10] Heather: No, but 

[00:08:12] Dan: Well, a bunch of drunk people. up in weird costumes and and, go house to house for jolly times and to beg for booze from their neighbors, because that's apparently what Christmas is all about in the United Kingdom.

[00:08:25] Heather: Isn't that? What carolers do they, 

[00:08:28] Dan: right. Yeah. 

[00:08:28] Heather: they demand That you give them 

[00:08:30] Jeff: Yeah.

We all want some Figgy pudding right now. Or O burn your house to the ground. 

[00:08:35] Heather: I'm not sure about those lyrics, but it sounds like it checks out. 

[00:08:38] Dan: So Mummers are the more annoying version of Christmas carolers what they do is you get up in a disguise and traditionally knock on the door and then they're invited into the house and they do a variety of performances of dancing and music or jokes. The hosts have to guess who the person in the costume is [00:09:00] before offering them food or drink. They're allowed to poke or prod the mummers or ask them 

[00:09:04] Jeff: Ooh, I'm in. 

[00:09:06] Dan: To make this a challenge for those, the Mummers can stuff their costumes or cross dress or speak with funny voices. Once they've been identified, they take off their disguises and just hang out for awhile and then head onto the next house to do it all over again and beg for more booze. But, what I thought was kind of interesting about this it's so it's making a comeback in Newfoundland. The people got so wild and crazy with their drunken reveling around the island that it was actually outlawed for many years because. 

[00:09:42] Heather: Too much fun. 

[00:09:44] Dan: It turned into a Christmas riot. But also if you look at this link from Atlas Obscura the headline says once a forbidden, these costumes are not festive in the traditional manner that you would think of as christmas festivity.[00:10:00] there's some of them carry around the horse heads and it's just weird because people are weird So yeah. 

[00:10:07] Heather: Canadians. Huh? 

[00:10:08] Dan: Yeah. Canadians plus are on this tiny island. That's really like a kind of isolated and apparently the people there are a little 

[00:10:16] Heather: Yeah, I guess if you're isolated on a tiny island off the coast of Canada, it might get a little boring

[00:10:22] Dan: Yeah. So now hundreds of them march around the town in a parade and have lots of 

[00:10:26] Heather: and demand booze, 

[00:10:27] Dan: yeah. So what I'm saying is we need more traditions like this in America.

[00:10:32] Heather: Boozy trick, or treating. I agree. 

[00:10:35] Dan: Yeah. At Christmas time, I don't think my neighbors appreciate it if 

I was carrying around a horse head started knocking on 

[00:10:42] Jeff: Well, you don't know till you try. 

[00:10:44] Heather: That's 

[00:10:45] Dan: true. That's true. So I know what I'm doing the rest of this week. Leading up to Christmas. I can't wait.

[00:10:50] Heather: Do you have a costume?

[00:10:51] Dan: No, I'm going to have to find a horse skull, pronto. Do you have a source for those?

[00:10:55] Heather: I don't, I live in the country, so I'm sure I could

[00:10:58] Jeff: isn't there one on your [00:11:00] wife's arm. What's that? 

[00:11:01] Dan: Ah, that's a T-Rex 

[00:11:03] Jeff: Oh yeah. Excuse 

[00:11:04] Dan: I think close enough, I guess, for for, 

[00:11:06] Heather: Oh, these costumes are a pretty weird.

[00:11:08] Dan: Yeah. It's kinda like when we talked about, man, what were, where were those weirdos was that Krampus knocked where they were all dressed up in the fuzzy yarn covered costumes, went around, beating each other with sticks.

[00:11:19] Heather: people do some weird things at the holidays.

[00:11:23] Dan: Yeah, and we need more of that kind of weirdness.

[00:11:26] Heather: I agree 

[00:11:27] Dan: I think I would appreciate that kind of weirdness. We'll get to some more of

that weirdness in a little bit, but first Heather's going to tell us about yet another way that we can get some Home Alone action in our lives. This holiday season. 

[00:11:40] Heather: Yeah, there is a place in Nashville. It's called the hidden bar and it's but we've talked a lot about the latest thing being the speakeasy kind of bar, where it's you enter through some weird back alley or a door that looks normal or [00:12:00] the Jeff's deal when you talked about in Birmingham is through a phone booth or something? I think, 

[00:12:04] Jeff: yes. 

[00:12:04] Heather: yeah, this one is at a it's at a hotel called the Noelle it's a historic hotel in Nashville and you go down into the basement and it's a door that's painted mint green, and it's supposed to look like a custodian closet. And when you go through the door, it's the hidden bar. and for the holidays, they've brought it into this whole home alone inspired experience and it looks really cool. They've recreated the living room and the dining room. And they've changed the menu to be all home alone inspired. So there's a cocktail called the one to 10, which has rum cold brew, all spice and chocolate. Bitters sounds delicious. A thirsty for more is a whiskey raspberry, Amaro lemon, bitters, ginger beer off. They all sound really great. And then they have a menu of many bars, snacks that [00:13:00] are inspired by Kevin's adventures. Like there's some pizza and some stuffed shells, Chicago style pig in a blanket. And then the Sunday scaries, an ice cream sundae with Luxardo cherries on it. Oh, it all sounds delicious. 

[00:13:16] Jeff: That looks so cool. 

[00:13:18] Heather: it look neat. They've transformed the whole space. There's like, there's even the he's got that cardboard cutout of Michael Jordan in his bulls uniform that he dances past the window when he's making it look like they're having a party. and the, they recreated the living room there too. So it's all the way through the end of the year for the holidays, it will be this home alone bar. And then presumably after the new year, it'll go back to just being a traditional, 

[00:13:48] Jeff: a regular old 

[00:13:49] Heather: Yeah. Or a regular old hidden bar. It looks really neat though. I would love to check it out. If you're in the Nashville area, I highly recommend it 

[00:13:57] Jeff: yeah. I just sent that to Sam Corlee. [00:14:00] want 

[00:14:00] Heather: And it is open only on specific days. It's open on Wednesdays and Thursdays from five to 11. Friday and Saturday from four to midnight, and then again on Sunday from five to 11 and they don't accept reservations. So you have to just get to the hotel and find your way down there.

[00:14:20] Jeff: so no Sunday, Monday, but open through the holidays. 

[00:14:22] Heather: No, Monday, Tuesday it's open from what? Yeah. Wednesday 

[00:14:25] Jeff: you just heard me wrong. 

[00:14:27] Heather: that's correct. You're 

[00:14:27] Jeff: All of you did all the listeners, all dozen of 

[00:14:31] Heather: It says that to check it out, unless you're a filthy animal, in which case stay out, 

[00:14:37] Jeff: That is a home alone movie reference. 

[00:14:40] Heather: it was well, I'm so glad you were. I'm so glad you noticed.

[00:14:44] Dan: I need more home alone in my life, 

[00:14:46] Heather: Yeah. And I think I like This idea even better than going to the Home Loan house and spending the night a home alone theme bar seems like a great idea. 

[00:14:54] Dan: The best of all worlds 

[00:14:56] Heather: Yeah. It's the eating and drinking that I think we've mentioned a few times. [00:15:00] We enjoy.

[00:15:00] Jeff: I'm not really a fan. 

[00:15:01] Dan: Yeah, we seem a little fixated almost well, 

[00:15:05] Heather: about the best things in life. Dan 

[00:15:08] Dan: Yeah. You might want to rethink that stance. When we talk about this next 

[00:15:13] Heather: no, 

[00:15:14] Jeff: Oh, 

[00:15:14] Dan: winter holiday 

[00:15:16] Jeff: don't ruin it for me, Dan. 

[00:15:18] Heather: gross. 

[00:15:18] Dan: actually this is, you know, in Diagon alley at Universal there's a window of the fish shop and they have an eel pie 

[00:15:28] Heather: Yes, 

[00:15:29] Dan: the eel head sticking out of the pie. Well, that's based on a traditional dish 

from it's a Cornish dish, 

[00:15:38] Heather: a real thing. 

[00:15:39] Dan: Christmas time festival, but it's called Stargazy Pie.


[00:15:42] Heather: Sounds innocuous, but it has an eel head in it.

[00:15:45] Dan: well, this is you know, not eel. We'll get there. Something else that I love 

about the UK, at any time, really their holidays. They have all these, they have all these really crazy. Like Eve's like, we're celebrating this Eve [00:16:00] of this person. And like, they usually say saints, but there's all kinds of these weird holidays. So on Tom Bawcock's Eve, which is Tom Bawcock's Eve, it's a Christmas type festival held in the Cornish village of Mouse Hole, england.

[00:16:14] Heather: Mouse Hole. 

[00:16:16] Dan: yeah. Mouse Hole England. There was, 

[00:16:18] Heather: I Googled it and I wish I hadn't. 

[00:16:21] Dan: Yeah. Well, this pie contains, you know, potatoes and eggs, but what really makes it great is that there are intact fish heads and sometimes tails sticking up out of the crust as though they're looking up at the stars and that's where the pie gets his name from.

[00:16:36] Jeff: It's quite cute. 

[00:16:37] Dan: Yeah. Usually they use anchovy type fish called a pilchard, 

[00:16:41] Heather: Oh, 

[00:16:41] Dan: you could use 

[00:16:42] Heather: fish heads all have their mouth is open. 

[00:16:45] Jeff: yeah. They're gazing at the stars. Heather 

[00:16:47] Dan: And the best part is there's a legend that goes with it, why it started. The dish is said to have originated in honor of the night that Tom Bawcock, the that we're celebrating at this festival who was a 16th century folk [00:17:00] hero of the town of Mousehole he sailed out to go fishing.

[00:17:03] Heather: This sounds 

[00:17:04] Jeff: may I put my Bawcock in your Mouse Hole? 

[00:17:06] Dan: I know it sounds so fake, but it's real. I've heard of this 

[00:17:10] Jeff: Some 12 year old wrote this. 

[00:17:12] Dan: He went out fishing at night, despite dangerous storms. As this, as the story goes, he came back with enough fish to end a famine that was going on in the area. Some versions of the story say that Tom Bawcock brought his along and the cat magically helped to calm the storm. 

[00:17:29] Heather: this is a lot.

[00:17:32] Jeff: but I bet the pie itself just tastes like the potatoes and stuff. The fish head seem to be more of a decoration, 

[00:17:37] Dan: yeah. I don't know. I bet you, I can, we can find a recipe and share it in the show notes and I bet you it's delicious and I bet you, nobody will want to try it out. Oh man. It's rough. We were looking, did you look at all three? There's a picture of the raw pie before it's cooked. So the fish heads are really fresh looking. 

[00:17:55] Heather: ah, yes. Gross. 

[00:17:58] Jeff: Oh, here's one of the [00:18:00] inside. Ooh. Yeah, Not any better. 

[00:18:02] Heather: I can't. Thank you. 

[00:18:04] Dan: You know, just

[00:18:05] Jeff: Oh, 

[00:18:05] Heather: Yeah.

[00:18:06] Jeff: They're all look like they're singing.

[00:18:08] Heather: Oh, 

[00:18:09] Dan: so when you're sitting at uncle Ernie's house, regretting your holiday festivity 

[00:18:15] Heather: not going to bring this to Christmas this year are you?

[00:18:17] Dan: Oh, no, I'm just saying, you know, when, your Christmas Eve is not going the way that you would like Christmas Eve to be when you're stuck with awful family members or discussing weird food, just remember that it could always be worse. You could be. Eating some of Tom Bawcock's stargazy pie in the village of Mousehole England.

[00:18:36] Heather: Oh, 

[00:18:37] Jeff: to do you want to go there for the cock and, but what is it? What is the festival 

[00:18:41] Dan: Tom Bawcock 

[00:18:43] Heather: eve? 

[00:18:44] Dan: Tom Bawcock's Eve

[00:18:46] Jeff: I prefer Tom Bawcock's Day, Do you open, just one 

present Tom Bawcock's Eve the rest of them on Tom Bawcock Day?

[00:18:55] Heather: This is crazy. 

[00:18:57] Dan: isn't isn't the fish head 

[00:18:59] Heather: The

[00:18:59] Jeff: [00:19:00] it's named after the traditional All Bawcock's Day,

[00:19:03] Dan: I wonder if this pie is where that song what's that? I can't

[00:19:07] Jeff: fish and finger pie. 

[00:19:09] Heather: Okay. 

[00:19:09] Dan: fish.

[00:19:09] Heather: There's one with lobsters. I could do this one

[00:19:12] Dan: Barely better. Barely better. No, that fish heads fish heads. 

[00:19:17] Jeff: Roly polie fish heads

[00:19:19] Dan: yeah. I wonder if there's a connection 

[00:19:21] Heather: Maybe a wikipedia has a poem, but it's written 

in, It looks like old English, I can't figure it out. 

[00:19:29] Dan: Well, I'm all about that. Stargazy pie. 

"A merry plaas you may believe

woz Mowsel pon Tom Bawcock's Eve.


[00:19:34] Jeff: be theer then oo wudn wesh 

To sup o sibm soorts o fesh!

Wen morgee brath ad cleard tha path

Comed lances for a fry, 

An then us had a bet o scad

an starry gazee py.

Nex cumd fermaads, braa thestee jaads

As maad ar oozies dry, 

An ling an haak, enough to maak 

a raunen shark to sy!

A aech wed clunk as ealth wer drunk

En bumpers bremmen y, 

An wen up caam Tom Bawcock's naam 

We praesed un to tha sky."

Yeah, the inside looks just like eggs and stuff. It looks pretty good. I think the fish are just a little gross decor for the top

[00:19:42] Heather: It is gross decor. Yeah. The inside is seems there seems to be some egg And something 

else and 

[00:19:49] Jeff: ham. maybe potato 

[00:19:51] Heather: Huh? 

[00:19:52] Jeff: and a fish. and it's all good. 

[00:19:54] Heather: Fish head look. 

[00:19:55] Dan: The celebration sees villages, parading a huge [00:20:00] pie through the streets of the town, with the procession of handmade lanterns before the entire town gathers to tuck into the pie together. 

[00:20:10] Heather: The original pie contained sand eels, horse Mack roll pilchards herring, Dogfish, and something called a Ling. 

[00:20:19] Jeff: Dogfish head 

[00:20:20] Heather: the ship in Mousehole 

[00:20:21] Jeff: brewery. 

[00:20:22] Heather: any Whitefish will work for the feeling and the pilchards or the hearing or just for the presentation? 

[00:20:27] Jeff: Well, yeah, 

[00:20:28] Heather: I, yes, the inside is fish thickened, milk, eggs, and boiled potatoes. It doesn't sound very good. 

[00:20:37] Jeff: God bless that. British cuisine. They just cannot. 

[00:20:41] Heather: Right. 

[00:20:42] Dan: Onion bacon mustard and white wine also are sometimes 

[00:20:46] Jeff: all sounds good. 

[00:20:47] Heather: yeah. Traditional other ingredients include hard-boiled eggs, bacon, onion, mustard, white wine. And now alternatives like crawfish and rabbit or mutton. 

[00:20:56] Jeff: Well, I would try it. 

[00:20:57] Heather: cannot get past the fish heads [00:21:00] on top. So I'm going to say that's a no for me, dog. 

[00:21:04] Dan: Yeah. Gross. 

[00:21:05] Jeff: That was, I would certainly try it. 

[00:21:07] Heather: Suggested accompaniments are Cornish, Yarg cheese, rhubarb, chutney poached, eggs and slices of lemon. 

What's that? Yarg cheese, 

[00:21:19] Dan: it's Cornish, Cornish, cheese

[00:21:21] Jeff: isn't That A pirate cheese. 

[00:21:23] Heather: probably. 

[00:21:24] Dan: that'd be my cheese. Well, stick around because after the commercial break, we're welcoming a very special guest into the studio to help us explore the more delightful, quick service restaurant options at Walt Disney world

Hot Dog Convo

[00:00:00] Dan:

 the wonderful thing about the wide world of theme park fandom, is there is so much to love and plenty of room for any niche? I hate that word. I regret using it instantly.

[00:00:09] Heather: Niche 

[00:00:10] Jeff: nietzsche. 

[00:00:11] Dan: No matter how specific it is, there are Disney fan sites dedicated to bathrooms, buses, boats, trash cans, goats, and non-functioning animatronics. Every one of them is fascinating. At first glance, you wonder how anyone can find that much of interest in these little details. Then you look deeper and realize just how much thought goes into the design and the huge variety that's been created to make these imaginary worlds feel real and lived in. This week's guest elevates the humble theme park hotdog to a variable art form. Let's welcome James, from the Instagram page, hot dogs at Disney into the studio. Hi there.

[00:00:48] James: , thank you so much for having me.

[00:00:49] Dan: So I guess the very first question that needs to be covered is why 

hotdogs or maybe

first before they left.

[00:00:58] Jeff: The first thing I thought was 'what the hell'?

[00:00:59] Dan: [00:01:00] So maybe why hot dogs 

and what do you do on your page? 

[00:01:03] James: I kind of questioned my account every single time I go to the parks and get content for it. So I'm right there with you on what the hell? It's it's been it's two years in a few months that I've been doing this for. I don't know what, you know, been asked this before and I still don't have a good answer. You know, I guess the it was born from my girlfriend got us annual passes one year, uh, to Disney you know, it was like a, you know, as someone who very rarely got a chance to go, cause it's so expensive. It felt like, you know, I felt like a Charlie in Willy Wonka. Like I had the keys to the chocolate factory or something like that. You know, after going a few times, I was like, I kind of, I want to do something creative with this. Like I want to put this to good use. And for whatever reason, I was like, okay, I'm going to take photos of hotdogs on rides. And I don't know, I can't explain to you guys where the idea came from. It was just You're going to do this with your life [00:02:00] for the next few years. I started doing it And I did it mainly to make my girlfriend laugh. I thought a few of my friends might think it was funny. then for whatever reason, you know, You know, I'm at 7,000 something followers now. Is the most rewarding thing to me in the entire world, because it's so dumb. It's so dumb, but it's I don't know. People seem to get the gag. I'm trying to be quirky and irreverent and whatnot, there's so much Disney content out there. There's so many Instagram accounts. Everyone does all this stuff. I'm just trying to put my own kind of weird spin on it and try to, you know, have a different perspective on the theme parks. 

[00:02:39] Jeff: Yeah, this is exactly my kind of weird. Doesn't hurt anyone, just weird. It's not so weird as to be unapproachable. It's just a weird concept and it's just and it's much better than looking at yet. Another twirling ear wearing girl on Instagram, 

[00:02:56] Heather: I ended to be at the wilderness lodge the day after [00:03:00] tomorrow. And I'm going to be really disappointed when this wreath have a hot dog in it. That wouldn't be as fun.

[00:03:07] James: You Could 

[00:03:08] Jeff: put one in, 

[00:03:09] Heather: Yeah.

[00:03:09] Jeff: I think I've used that line. May I put my hot dog in your wreath? 

[00:03:13] James: Yeah, I did. I didn't ask for permission on that one, but 

[00:03:15] Heather: Oh,

[00:03:16] James: should 

[00:03:16] Jeff: Nah. cause they'd 


[00:03:19] Heather: The grand Floridian staircase. Just a hot dog. 

[00:03:22] James: I've been busted a couple of times, but I haven't been kicked out of Disney yet. Thankfully.

[00:03:27] Heather: Yeah. Have they ever said anything to you about, oh my gosh, this is one. of the 50th statues. 

[00:03:34] James: It was one. of the 50th statutes that I got busted on. Yeah. I think that, yeah. 

[00:03:38] Heather: I'm looking at Edna mode right now holding a hot dog,

[00:03:42] James: So I had to reach over the railing and put the hot dog on her hand. Then this cast, member came up to me like immediately afterwards and was like know, as serious as you could possibly be. I felt like, you know, the principal in high school was talking to me and said, [00:04:00] sir, could you please remove your hot dog from the statue? 

[00:04:03] Jeff: Get your wiener the 

[00:04:05] James: I managed to get a pop off that one photo. right before I got nailed. I'm proud of that one 

[00:04:11] Jeff: it. almost looks like it's photoshopped in there. It's so perfect. It's just

[00:04:17] James: Yup. 

[00:04:17] Jeff: No mustard, dahling

[00:04:18] Heather: and for our listeners who haven't checked out your Instagram yet, you're bringing these hotdogs in with you, you're not buying them there. 

[00:04:31] James: There's two answers there for about the first year I did it. I was very strict about, I'm going to buy a hot dog there and use a disney hot dog. Like it was, like a moral code or something like that. And then 

[00:04:42] Jeff: you went broke. 

[00:04:44] James: That too, but after COVID hit, it was hard to find a hot dog anywhere. Like they closed down a lot of hot dog stands and so it was kind of a necessity. Like I just had to start bringing my own in and then it's easier because when I buy them, you know, if I'm at home, [00:05:00] I can't even explain how much time I spend like picking out the perfect bond and the perfect hot dog. I like St Lynn's and Stollmeyer are my favorites Nathan's are good. But in terms of photos, I go old school with the Oscar Meyer because they just photograph better, like good hot dogs, good quality, hot dogs. Don't have all the nitrates and all the garbage. 

[00:05:23] Jeff: Yeah.

[00:05:24] Heather: Oh yeah. So the color is a little off

[00:05:26] James: So I need a nice,

[00:05:27] Jeff: thinking maybe a ballpark 

would be good, they plump, when you cook them

[00:05:31] James: . So it's like the more additives in it, the the better they photograph. 

[00:05:35] Heather: Do you cook them ? 

 Yeah. Do you cook them before you head out to the parks ?

[00:05:41] James: Yeah. I sat them in the microwave for a few seconds just to kind of bring out the color a little bit and then 

[00:05:46] Jeff: and you bring them already in the bun or do you prepare them there and then 

[00:05:51] James: no, I Pre-bun them 

Cause Yeah. 

[00:05:53] Jeff: I'm not an amateur? Jeff, 

[00:05:55] James: Yeah. What are you talking about, man? Come on. No, I, yeah, I set them up. Like, I you know, get the [00:06:00] perfect dog and the perfect bond and make sure they look good, 360 and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, they're like my, like my models, you know, it's like, like the Victoria's Secret fashion show except with hot dogs. 

[00:06:11] Heather: I like this. A potato land shot of the hot dog on the potato. 

[00:06:16] Dan: So are you a particularly big fan of hotdogs in real life or is this just, 

[00:06:20] Jeff: it's just the funniest food.

[00:06:22] Dan: just the funniest

[00:06:23] Heather: It is a funny food. 

[00:06:24] James: Kind of both. I always loved hot dogs growing up and I just dig hot dogs. I really do enjoy them a lot.

[00:06:29] Heather: I do love a hot dog. 

[00:06:31] James: But, you know, it's, I wouldn't say it's my favorite. I wouldn't say it's my favorite food and it, yeah. You're you kind of nailed it. Just a funny food, like, and it's just a, sort of an, every man sort of thing. And it's, you know, be you are a rich man or be you a poor man. Everyone loves a hotdog. But if I did like hamburgers at Disney, it wouldn't be quite as funny. There's something like something kind of silly and goofy about a hot dog 

[00:06:59] Jeff: Also the [00:07:00] fact to me that it's undressed. It's funny. It's just like a, I know I'm just, a naked Wiener. It's always funny. color is perfect. Did you think about other foods or try other foods just for a goof before you settled in a 

[00:07:12] James: Not at all. it was just, it was like divine messenger came down from the heavens that you are going to take a photos of hot dogs and that's It 

[00:07:21] Heather: You ever do you ever get weird looks from security when you're headed through with your hotdogs?

[00:07:26] James: You know, what's funny is I take all sorts of prompts and random stuff in like , I smuggled a pumpkin in one time for Halloween and a like a little miniature Christmas tree and all sorts of stuff. That's the stuff they care about. Like, I, at one time I brought in like 48 hotdogs and like, it was like actually 48 hot dogs. And didn't bat an eye on that, but they they questioned me about what what my Christmas tree was. 

[00:07:53] Jeff: And what did your, what was your answer? 

[00:07:56] James: like, oh, you know, it's a, I'm taking photos. This is going to be my holiday [00:08:00] card. 

I brought the bylaws. You know, it was funny when I first got this idea, I actually went on the Disney website and I was reading all of the rules of what you can and can't bring into the parks and yeah, there's nothing about bringing in, you know, an amount of hot dogs.

[00:08:17] Jeff: Pumpkin or a Christmas 

[00:08:18] Heather: or any 

[00:08:19] Jeff: tree.

[00:08:20] Heather: Jeff and I once observed a gentlemen basically brought in a whole taco bar in his backpack. It was extreme.

[00:08:30] Jeff: backpack had. Large 


[00:08:33] Heather: Yes,

[00:08:34] Jeff: of them have he had tortillas and he had a thing of beef that had been carrying 

[00:08:38] Heather: it is. Backpack. 

[00:08:40] Jeff: was alarming, but cheese and sour cream, 

[00:08:42] Heather: and guacamole, and

[00:08:44] Jeff: two giant like soft tacos or burritos while his family was eating it. His was at Disneyland and he, they were eating at the, whatever that lunching pad places there near the Jedi training at Disneyland and we were just fascinated. This guy made [00:09:00] two enormous full-scale, fully dressed things. Took him 20 minutes to build these things.

[00:09:05] Heather: his family was eating quick service from this like burgers and stuff, but he brought his whole taco fixings and then put it all back in his backpack. And presumably around the rest of the day with sour cream and guacamole in his backpack.

Then the beef. Yeah, it was 

[00:09:25] Dan: yeah. the sour cream is the real problem though, right? Like that's disturbing. 

[00:09:28] James: Yeah, you don't want, you don't want to be carrying around dairy and your backpack all day long. 

[00:09:33] Heather: but I guess he was just determined that not only was he not going to eat theme park food, but he wasn't just going to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

[00:09:42] Jeff: Of course, that was California.

[00:09:44] Heather: Yes.

[00:09:49] Jeff: You like the hot dogs at Disney parks? 

[00:09:51] James: Yeah. There's good and bad ones. Casey's corner does a good 

one. BB Wolf's over at Disney springs. It's probably like, yeah. Yeah. If you want like [00:10:00] a legit, like really, good. Like my hot dog, they're like 

[00:10:04] Jeff: SAusages and all right. 

[00:10:06] James: yeah. 

[00:10:06] Jeff: I keep seeing that place after I've already eaten somewhere. I never remembered to go there or the crepe place.

[00:10:12] James: Oh, it's awesome. I have the menu up right. here. Yeah, they've got 

[00:10:15] Heather: I love that. It's the big, bad Wolf's pork

[00:10:18] Jeff: Sausage. 

[00:10:19] James: right. 

[00:10:19] Jeff: Sadistic and gross.

[00:10:20] Heather: really.

[00:10:21] Jeff: love it,

[00:10:21] James: have dogs topped with salsa, spam, 

[00:10:24] Heather: Ooh, 

[00:10:25] James: pastrami. They've 

[00:10:27] Dan: Yeah. That's what I'm in 

[00:10:28] James: to 

[00:10:28] Heather: yum.

[00:10:30] James: They've got a chili dog there. 

[00:10:32] Jeff: Are good to eat, but they don't photograph well 

[00:10:34] James: No. 

[00:10:35] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:10:36] Jeff: or transport. Probably either. 

[00:10:38] Dan: Let's see. Oh so you bring your hot dogs all over the parks, but you do have one particular special love, place that you particularly like to take pictures of the hot dogs, and then the people mover. 

[00:10:48] James: Yeah. I kinda, the best days I have or where I just kind of bring a couple hot dogs in the park and wander around and just kind of see what, you know, I try to find weird little spots n the [00:11:00] parks where, you know, people kind of just walk past or don't notice. But the one thing I always do is the people mover and yeah, that's my my second account is hotdogs on the people mover, which is dedicated solely to taking photos of hotdogs on the people. And what I love about that account is so the people mover, like it literally puts me in a box, right? Like only so many different angles and so many different photos, you can take of a hot dog on the people mover. 

So every single time it's like it's a challenge and a to, to come up with something creative or, you know, find a new way to take a photo of a hot dog on the people mover. 

And yeah, you know, after two plus years I'm still still getting you know, finding ways to do that. But yeah, it's my, you know, first off, it's my favorite ride in the park. I can't even tell you why, like ever since I was a kid, It's my number one favorite ride


[00:11:53] Jeff: it feels like you're getting away with something on that. It's a cool 

things you feel like you're not supposed to see. And especially when you go [00:12:00] inside, of course, through the space mountain, it feels like you're sneaking. think that's why I like it always a good vantage 

[00:12:06] James: Yeah. 

[00:12:06] Jeff: And that dusty gross little model of cut is good too. 

[00:12:11] Dan: Yeah, I'm sure. The last year or so people have really enjoyed glimpses of the Tron coaster with hot dogs. 

[00:12:17] James: Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's funny. It's every time I go on that thing, I expect a little bit more progress, but it's still like, it's taken forever and I heard it's getting back to 20, 23. I don't know if that rumor is actually true. And so 

[00:12:31] Heather: it wouldn't shock 

[00:12:33] James: now, 

[00:12:34] Jeff: They didn't really say, they said when they said guardians 22 and that's as far as they got, but I didn't really say it , it looks very slow.

[00:12:42] James: yeah, I drove by, I was on the monorail from magic kingdom to Epcot a couple days ago and it 

takes you right by the guardians, a coaster, and it still looks like it's a mess. There's still construction stuff and dust and whatnot everywhere. So we'll see how that,

[00:12:58] Heather: they are doing cast [00:13:00] testing. 

[00:13:00] Jeff: it's awesome. 

[00:13:01] James: Oh, really.

[00:13:02] Heather: Yeah. The law it's recent

[00:13:04] Jeff: so they can be testing it while they finish up the outside or lobby or 

[00:13:08] James: Oh, great. Great.

[00:13:09] Jeff: maybe they're still working on the screens and the effects, but the ride system itself is going and people are 

riding it. 

[00:13:16] James: Oh, awesome. I can't wait for that.

[00:13:17] Heather: yes.

[00:13:19] Jeff: could be a whole new place for

hot dog. 

[00:13:21] Heather: Yeah. I can't wait to see the 


[00:13:24] James: Hot dogs and outer space will be a first. 

[00:13:26] Dan: With all the, there's plenty of connections that you really could like dial down

just to that. Just have another page. That's just the hot dogs in 

[00:13:34] Heather: Space


tYou've got Space 

[00:13:35] James: 220 and...

[00:13:37] Dan: Space Mountain and just everywhere. Yeah. I don't know how.

[00:13:40] Jeff: see a hotdogs at universal. Is that you as well? 

[00:13:44] James: me. I haven't done anything with that page yet. Like I just kind of secured 

[00:13:48] Jeff:

[00:13:50] James: the main

dogs in 

[00:13:53] Jeff: know, post yet. 

[00:13:54] James: Orlando. That's the thing that one's actually up and running. 

I have corn dogs at disney [00:14:00] tO get even more granular. That 

one's tough 

[00:14:02] Dan: Yeah, 

[00:14:02] James: you can only get corndogs at a couple places. So yeah.

[00:14:05] Dan: no.

[00:14:06] Jeff: been out to Disney lane? The 


dog, Mecca. 

[00:14:08] James: you know, I went as a kid. I haven't been as a adult. 

[00:14:11] Jeff: That's where the corndog 

[00:14:12] Heather: are corn 

[00:14:12] James: Yeah, 

[00:14:13] Jeff: and churros everywhere. we can't get a corn dog or a churro. I'll 


[00:14:18] Dan: Decent one.

[00:14:19] Heather: but not very many corn dogs.

[00:14:20] Jeff: park somehow 

[00:14:21] James: no Disneyland. I, you know, I was going to do it this year, but then, you know, COVID and all that 


[00:14:26] Jeff: What's cOVID I 

[00:14:27] Heather: I haven't heard of it. 

[00:14:29] James: But hopefully next year I can make it out there. 

[00:14:31] Dan: Yeah. Hopefully some of us can make it out there next 

[00:14:33] Heather: Yes. I hope though. 

[00:14:34] Jeff: bite your tongue where we're going next year, no hopefully.

[00:14:38] Dan: All right. 

So then those other accounts kind of lead to this other question. I was curious about 

when you're out visiting other spots around the world. Maybe if you take a trip to say the grand canyon or new York city or are you bringing the hot dogs with you to be your avatar on 

[00:14:53] Heather: Hot Dogs in Antartica? I 


[00:15:00] James: I'm actually, you know, I'm from England and my that is going to be my next big trip is going to England to visit my family probably in the spring of 2023. 

[00:15:10] Jeff: recognized your English accent. 

[00:15:12] James: Yeah. Unfortunately I moved over here before my accent kicked in which my girlfriend laments. 

[00:15:17] Heather: Yeah. for sure. 

[00:15:19] Jeff: Yeah, You're not nearly as sexy as you could be.

[00:15:21] James: not at all, but anyway. Yeah, so I'm contemplating what to do over there. You know, 

[00:15:26] Heather: Yes. 

[00:15:27] James: That's not really a thing. do love their processes 

[00:15:30] Heather: true. 

[00:15:30] James: have to pack a separate suitcase, just full of buttons and

[00:15:34] Heather: Yes. 

[00:15:35] Jeff: yeah, 

Just bring the buns and put bangers and mash in a

[00:15:39] Heather: Thank bangers at Buckingham 


[00:15:42] Jeff: Yeah.

[00:15:43] James: no, definitely. They'll be following on my following me on my adventures and all my friends and family have just kind of learned to accept that wherever I go, like, you know, 

[00:15:53] Heather: there will hot dogs. 

[00:15:54] James: the mall or I'll go out to the grocery store most of the time. I talk with me just in [00:16:00] case. Yeah. Cause I've learned that, you know, I'll just see something, I'll be like, oh man, I wish I had a hot dog to put on that pineapple or like, you know, that

[00:16:07] Jeff: you know, what you need is a really good quality fake hot dog that

[00:16:11] Heather: Yeah

[00:16:12] Jeff: always have just in case in the car or in your traveling bag, or

[00:16:16] James: I'll get in touch with ILM or, some effects studio to make me a realistic


[00:16:21] Jeff: maybe Jess can 3d print you a good replica

[00:16:23] James: Yeah. 

That'd be 


[00:16:24] Heather: you go.

[00:16:25] Dan: there you go. We talk about some food around the Disney park? 

[00:16:29] Heather: Yeah. we never talk

[00:16:30] Jeff: hot dogs or photograph hot dogs, do you have favorite? 

The snacking 

[00:16:35] James: Yeah. You know, I got to tell you guys real quick. It's really you know, I want a long time, I grew up a big Disney fan. Always loved Disney, and then I moved to Orlando and then I was too broke to go to Disney, you know, cause I was in college and all that kind of stuff. So I missed out on a lot of years of park stuff. what got me back into Disney as a grownup was the food And, become such a big, you know, I love the rides and everything, but [00:17:00] I like just going over there to hang out and try different food and all that kind of stuff. Like it, you know, the resort parks, the festivals, like there's some really great stuff over there. So that's I'm glad we're talking about this stuff today because yeah, The 

[00:17:12] Heather: That sounds a lot like the way we do the parks 

[00:17:15] James: Yeah. 

[00:17:15] Heather: drinking 

[00:17:16] Jeff: care much about the rides and the genie and the how long, I go there often enough. I'm just there to eat and drink booze. 

[00:17:23] James: Yeah. 

[00:17:24] Heather: Yep.

[00:17:24] James: that's the beauty of being local and having many annual passes, know, we can, you know, I'll get off of work and just go over there for dinner, maybe ride one thing and then come home you know, feel very spoiled and very lucky that way. 

[00:17:37] Dan: Yeah. you get to actually treat it like a park instead of like,

[00:17:42] Jeff: Yeah. Not a vacation destination. 

[00:17:44] James: Yeah.

[00:17:45] Jeff: He treated it like the California people treated disneyland. 

[00:17:48] James: It's like a gigantic food court or something like that.

[00:17:50] Jeff: Yeah.

[00:17:51] Heather: Yes. 

[00:17:52] Jeff: World's most expensive food court. Are you a snack guy or are you a meal guy? 

[00:17:57] James: You know, I don't like sweets too much. I've never been [00:18:00] a sweets person, so I don't, I'm not big on snacky stuff, but I like the bit, you know, I like the sit down restaurants, but the most, you know, cause that way I can sit and relax and you're kind of away from the noise of the parks and all the crowds and everything. You can kind of take a breather. But lately I've been trying to go through all of the quick serves, that's kind of been on my list. CAuse I feel like it's a area of expertise that I haven't had so much like there's a few places that I go and have always gone to, but I've been trying to branch out a lot more lately. So I've been. Run it down the list of all the you know, kinda classic quick serves and some of the more interesting ones. And then having a really great time doing that the these past few months.

[00:18:44] Dan: There is certainly a lot of them to get to how far along on the list are 


[00:18:48] James: Oh man. Let me see what I did.

[00:18:50] Dan: You're doing it alphabetically, right? 

[00:18:51] James: Maybe i, maybe 30% of them I'm through, 

but yeah. It's 30%. 

[00:18:58] Jeff: I don't know if I've had [00:19:00] 30% of, I don't do a lot of quick service. I snack and then I have sit down meals. 

[00:19:05] James: I've been doing it more lately since I've been to the parks so much during 

the holidays. And usually it's a, one-off like, just be me by myself. So I'll grab something, you know, quick but if I, you know, if I'm going with friends or, you know, my girlfriend or anything like that, you know, it's always a sit down thing, but yeah. Found some really cool stuff and things that I've been disappointed in and things I've loved and things that were underwhelming and, you know, big mix of stuff. 

[00:19:33] Jeff: What's your favorite, 

[00:19:34] James: I would say hands down and yeah, this is very biased. But I'd say the Yorkshire county, fish and chips at Epcot. 

[00:19:42] Heather: That's a good one. 

[00:19:44] James: that's legit the best actual quick serve, like in terms of food quality it gets, you have to like fish and chips. Cause that's all they serve. You can get one thing from that place, but they do that one thing really well. And yeah, it's kinda my favorite. Like[00:20:00] I've gone to Epcot before gotten the fish and chips and then taken it home with me. That's how much like at the end of the night it will be, the last thing I do is I'll get the fish and chips and then walk to my car and take it home for dinner. I like it that much. 

[00:20:13] Jeff: the fries. Don't travel. 

[00:20:14] James: They get a little soggy, 

[00:20:15] Heather: that's kind of the way that it is with fish and chips though. 

[00:20:19] Jeff: You put them

[00:20:20] Heather: Authentic

[00:20:21] Jeff: going to saga anyway. 

[00:20:24] Heather: ones.

[00:20:27] James: And it's something about having Disney food at home on the couch while you're watching TV 

[00:20:35] Heather: That is pretty good. 

[00:20:36] Jeff: Yeah. That would be great I've never gotten to do that.

[00:20:39] Heather: Yeah.

[00:20:39] Jeff: That's the joy of being a local.

[00:20:42] Dan: That really is a great spot though. The is good. you get a good amount of it. and, it's a great price too.

[00:20:48] Jeff: I've never gotten there. 

[00:20:50] Dan: That's good. You

[00:20:51] Jeff: If I'm in the world showcase here. Yeah. I could go for the bratwurst and in germany, 

[00:20:55] James: Those are really good. Yup. 

[00:20:57] Heather: . Have Have you [00:21:00] tried the new crepes window in France? Backed by Ratatouille.

[00:21:05] James: Yeah. I got a passholder preview for Ratatouille and was able to go try the creperie. Yeah, it's awesome. Like it's really super super 

[00:21:13] Heather: and really

[00:21:14] Jeff: be hit or miss we, Heather and I went and 

we loved it. And then I've pictures and heard of other people that got 

very over 


[00:21:21] James: Yeah. 

[00:21:21] Jeff: were 

[00:21:22] Heather: that's unfortunate.

[00:21:23] Jeff: ones in 



[00:21:25] James: Yeah, I, think I, you know, I kinda caught it during a you know, a time when there weren't a lot of people there. haven't been since it actually has opened, so I, yeah. And you know what the problem with that area is it's so tiny back there. 

[00:21:39] Heather: crowded 

[00:21:40] Jeff: and a dead 

[00:21:40] James: Yeah. In a dead end. So I can imagine, like, I can't imagine what the lions must be like now and like the quality. 

[00:21:47] Heather: this week, too, for the sit-down part. And I'm looking forward to that because the menu is a little bit, even more variety of on the menu in the sit-down area. 

[00:21:55] James: That looks really great.

[00:21:58] Jeff: Until we walked into the sit [00:22:00] down area and I should know this is what we do for a living, but I did not realize until you and I saw people in there that there even was a sit down area. I thought it was just going to be the window. So that was a delightful surprise. 

[00:22:13] Dan: Best of both worlds. 

[00:22:15] Heather: And it's the, you could get some of the same crepes 

from the window, but not all of them. A little few more inside, 

[00:22:22] Dan: Yeah,

[00:22:22] Heather: a few 

[00:22:23] Jeff: Dan, what say you on snackage? 

[00:22:26] Dan: Since we've been talking about world showcase stuff, it was making me think of something that came to mind when we were there in November. that as much As we laugh about the number of festivals at Epcot and how it's always festival time, more I think about it, that's perfect because The best possible experience in my mind for eating at Epcot is actually hitting up a bunch of those festival booths. The portions are good, it's a relatively cheap meal you think about it. Most of the portions, like four to $6, right? 

[00:22:59] Heather: Yeah. [00:23:00] 

[00:23:00] Dan: a lot of the stuff. and 

it's like, there's some more expensive things, but like food and wine, you can get a bunch of stuff for around six bucks hit up a bunch of these different booths. You get a whole wide variety of stuff and it's filling it's most of it's delicious. It's interesting, more interesting than variations on tater tots covered with cheese, you know, so 

[00:23:22] Heather: But I love the totchos

[00:23:26] Dan: Totchos are great, but a little variety is nice


[00:23:30] Heather: totchos are delicious. I will fight you

[00:23:33] Jeff: But what better way to showcase the world in those countries, then little tastes of

[00:23:38] Heather: bits or their food. Yeah. 

[00:23:40] Jeff: It makes sense. We do give it a lot of shit for being a festival time all the time, but that's really kind of

[00:23:47] Heather: love the festivals. Yeah.

[00:23:48] Jeff: of little countries, not little countries.

[00:23:51] Dan: more festivals so that it is actually festivals

[00:23:54] Heather: As festivals all the time.

[00:23:55] Dan: that I can hear the festival boots to snack.

[00:23:57] Jeff: I, before the pandemic, [00:24:00] therewere literally only three months that there was 

not a festival because they went,

[00:24:04] Heather: those in

[00:24:05] Jeff: that was the late summer. And so now they started this year. They filled it in. There was, yeah, there's only a couple of weeks here and there where

[00:24:12] Heather: and wine 

[00:24:13] Dan: No. 

[00:24:14] Heather: in July, I think. they kept flower and garden going through June and then.

[00:24:18] Jeff: yeah.

Flower and garden. Then there was nothing and there was no 

[00:24:22] Heather: Arts

[00:24:23] Jeff: in food and wine then holidays then right back to.

[00:24:27] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:24:28] Dan: I'm really disappointed that when we're down there in February, we're there right at the end of art and

somewhere in that short window,

[00:24:35] Heather: no. And before flower and garden,

[00:24:38] Dan: what a festival. 

[00:24:39] James: Oh, that's a shame. 

Yeah. You know, it's funny festival of the arts is actually 


into my favorite of all of them, you know?

[00:24:45] Heather: love that 

[00:24:46] James: Yeah. Yeah. It's really creative. It's really 

unique. Like 

I love food and wine. It's a classic, you know, I won't dump on 

that, yeah. A festival of the arts I think is


interesting and the food choices, they take a few more 

risks. They 

try yeah. [00:25:00] Yeah. So ticketed. 

[00:25:01] Heather: you get a lot of the Instagramable food, but somehow it's usually still 

really good. 

[00:25:06] James: Yeah. 

[00:25:07] Jeff: I love all the, seeing all the artists and there's, I'm a big fan  of Disney art. We have a lot of. 
I'm looking right here at peace. I bought from Heather bought if I'm being real, but anyway, that I have from the couple of festival of the arts ago, but I love  that. you get to meet the artist. And one time I was  making fun of a ridiculous piece  of art, I thought was  stupid and then realized I was fully within earshot of the artist. And
I have learned a lesson not to  trash-talk because someone loves it. And  it's also subjective.  So 

[00:25:37] James: Yeah. 

[00:25:38] Jeff: I like people don't have to like.

[00:25:40] James: usually the best weather down here too, for a festival of the arts. You know, I 

[00:25:43] Heather: was one of my favorites because of that. it's 

not super 

[00:25:47] James: yeah, it was at festival of the holidays last week. And what was at the third week of December? 

[00:25:52] Heather: You guys are having a heat wave. 

[00:25:54] James: Yeah. I sweated like

crazy. I was like, it was like a, it was 

in the Amazon or 

[00:26:00] something like that.

It was just nasty.

[00:26:02] Heather: Not in 


[00:26:03] James: No. And all the Christmas decorations were up and I was trying to get 

hot dog photos in front of the tree and like, 

yeah, just looking like I took a 


[00:26:11] Jeff: Did your hot dog get a little limp? 

[00:26:12] James: You know, what's funny. So this is a little behind the scenes or behind the weens, as I like
to  What, I'm  holding hot dogs and I'm out in the sun all day. They actually cook more. So I keep having to
rotate them because they get like super red and crispy.

[00:26:26] Heather: They're 



[00:26:27] James: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I have to rotate the hotdogs, so they they look fresh And 

you know, 

[00:26:33] Dan: How do you do that? When you've got 48 

hot dogs with you, do you have an assistant with you? That'd be like.

[00:26:37] Jeff: yeah, he has a hot dog fluffer.

[00:26:39] James: I could use one of 

those actually.

[00:26:41] Jeff: We all 

[00:26:42] James: Yeah.  Accepting applications now, but  no 48  hot dogs. That's a, w that's a once a 
year kind of thing.  I usually for a national hot dog  day, I'll bring a ton in  and do some elaborate thing, 

but yeah,  generally it's like about three wieners per trip.

[00:27:00] Dan: That's a good amount.

[00:27:01] Jeff:  Sounds like one of Heather's trips. 

[00:27:02] Heather: Thank you for that. That was lovely.

[00:27:05] Dan: Should we move on to another park

[00:27:07] Jeff: Sure.

[00:27:08] Dan: should we talk about  pick a park, any park?  Let's like magic kingdom. Let's see. What's your favorite spot? Around magic kingdom.  That's the one that's got the most misses. Isn't

[00:27:16] Jeff: For me, magic kingdom is always the sweet stuff and I love Dole whip and citrus swirl.
But beyond that, that there's that Cheshire cat thing that I like. It's also. It's all sweetie

[00:27:27] Heather: spring, roll cart.

[00:27:28] Jeff: Oh yes.

[00:27:31] Dan: in November. I didn't get the cheeseburger one though. I had, they had a special for the 50th. The pastrami one. It was It was good. It was like,

[00:27:39] Heather: tried the pastrami 

[00:27:41] Jeff: in that one. 

[00:27:41] Heather: Yeah, 

[00:27:42] Dan: true. But it was 


[00:27:44] Heather: haven't tried that one, but the cheeseburger is a classic and I 



[00:27:47] James: Yeah, I have to agree with.

[00:27:48] Jeff: James, 

what do you 

[00:27:49] James: Yeah, the, you know, I like I said, I'm not really a sweet person, but magic 

kingdom has the best suites. I think maybe the Dole 

whip is the best thing to eat in the 

entire park. [00:28:00] You know, the the, 

quick serve options are just kind of

[00:28:02] Heather: does 


[00:28:03] James: got good.

[00:28:05] Jeff: the whip hater.

[00:28:06] Dan: I'm a citrus 



[00:28:09] Jeff: I love them both, 



[00:28:11] James: and I'll get

[00:28:11] Jeff: the edge to 


[00:28:12] James: I'll, say K, 

you know, legit, unlike the no joke Casey's corner is 

probably the best quick serve, 

And magic 

kingdom. Pakos.

[00:28:20] Heather: fries in addition to 


good hot 

[00:28:22] James: Yeah.

Pecos bill is pretty good, but everything else 

is just horrendous. Like, I I don't mean any 

offense to people who like magic kingdom

food, but like, 

[00:28:32] Jeff: no, I 



[00:28:33] James: oh, It's terrible. it's terrible.

[00:28:35] Jeff: Other than skipper, canteen, 


[00:28:37] James: Yeah. Now jungle skipper is great. Like that's actually a favorite of my one of my favorite sit-downs but yeah, the launching pad, I would 

say, you know, I was trying to, I was, I came up with a list of my like actual least favorite, 

you know, spots all the parks.


launching pad is hands down the actual worst food in Disney.

I think it's [00:29:00] like 

[00:29:00] Jeff: Been in there 


I guess

Don't even know 

what they 

[00:29:03] James: it's 

[00:29:03] Heather: stopped there for like, if we want to

pick up a bottle of 

[00:29:07] James: yeah. 

[00:29:07] Heather: Way back to

[00:29:08] Jeff: thing that's under  the  Astro 

[00:29:10] James: It's  under Yeah. They asked her over to her  

and the people  mover. So it's like cosmic rays except like 

[00:29:16] Jeff: If it were worse, 

[00:29:17] James: cast castoffs. It's the food that they bus  over from cosmic rays. That's like a little too 
old  to sell,

[00:29:23] Jeff: they probably actually  do.

[00:29:25] Dan: windows for  different categories of things  around it.

[00:29:28] Heather: Like cosmic rays,

[00:29:30] Jeff: think  they  have 

[00:29:30] James: yeah, 

[00:29:31] Jeff: serve there.

[00:29:32] James: but yeah, lunching pad her horrendous. 

[00:29:35] Jeff: Cosmic rays is pretty much awful too.

[00:29:38] Dan: but

[00:29:39] Jeff: I liked the guy. I liked the

[00:29:41] Heather: Dan 


[00:29:43] Dan: I want to love it

[00:29:44] Heather: Of 

[00:29:44] Dan: but

[00:29:45] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:29:45] Dan: it's not. 

[00:29:46] Jeff: 

It. The

[00:29:47] Heather: is not bad.

[00:29:48] Jeff: It's like a food court. When my dad used to hate taking the family to the food court. And now I hate cosmic graves for the

same thing. Cause my wife wants one thing. I want one thing, my son wants another and like, we got to go to line up in three [00:30:00] places. 



[00:30:01] James: so I tried cosmic rays for the first time in my entire life back in November. 

And I was like, you know, like I said, I'm going down the list of all the 

quick serves and I got 

a hamburger and it just tasted like, 

I don't know what kind of meat it was 

like a, it was like, like a 

[00:30:15] Heather: They don't.

[00:30:16] Jeff: Patty they use at the Karisma 


[00:30:19] James: Yeah. I don't know 

if it was like Gators from the the lake or, you know, 


[00:30:23] James: Mouse 

burgers or something like 

that. But yeah, it was nasty. The funniest part about my cosmic rays experiences. I was leaving and they had a sign on the wall, you know, where they say, you know, at restaurants they say maximum occupancy, right? 

Cosmic rays maximum occupancy 

is over



[00:30:42] Heather: Oh. 

[00:30:42] Jeff: Wow. 

[00:30:43] Heather: Oh. 


[00:30:44] Dan: that's like how, 

when and where do they all go?

Because that 

[00:30:46] James: exactly. 

[00:30:47] Dan: is 

not that 

[00:30:48] James: No.

[00:30:49] Dan: That's confusing. 

[00:30:50] James: Last 700. 

[00:30:51] Heather: think I've been in there with 1100 people it

[00:30:54] Dan: I think the only reason that place popular is because 

for so long, that was on everybody's tip [00:31:00] list for a cheap Disney trip is go there and get the chicken dinner and split it 



[00:31:04] James: Yeah. and I get that people have kids and kids are picky and kids just 

want a burger and some chicken nuggets and you don't want to spend, you know, you don't want to take 


to the 


[00:31:12] Jeff: every place has some version of kid 

food though. 

[00:31:15] James: Yeah. 

[00:31:16] Heather: Yeah.

[00:31:17] James: like, it's 

especially bad. 

[00:31:18] Dan: no, 

[00:31:19] Heather: agree. 

[00:31:20] Jeff: Yeah, I do. I love Casey's. And I hear that. What's the thing across the street, that Plaza cafe, how is here? That's good. I've never set foot in there actually, but 

[00:31:29] Heather: Yeah. 


It's nothing to write home about, but it's not bad. 

[00:31:32] Dan: Is be our guests lunch, quick service

anymore. It was 

[00:31:37] Heather: think it is 


now. I haven't been back. 

[00:31:40] James: order it at the front and then they 

[00:31:42] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:31:43] James: you on a cart. Yeah.

[00:31:44] Dan: Yeah. 


[00:31:46] Heather: been back since the 


[00:31:48] Jeff: identify your table, they

follow you to the vibrating rose.

[00:31:51] Heather: Yes. 

[00:31:52] Dan: originally supposed to be quick serve, but then it was so popular that they made you get a reservation for a quick serve. So it didn't really feel like a [00:32:00] quick serve. I dunno.

And then They got rid of the pork shank

next door. So

[00:32:03] Heather: Oh that's a travesty, 

[00:32:05] Jeff: was the great. Not only thing to

[00:32:07] Heather: Pork shank

[00:32:08] Jeff: That was a snack credit. That was 

like a 50

pork shank. It was great. No wonder they removed it, but that

[00:32:15] Heather: Yeah. Yeah. That's fair.

[00:32:18] Dan: Yeah. 

[00:32:18] Heather: It was so good though. That's a Travis.

[00:32:21] Jeff: Animal kingdom. They have good quick serve options. 

[00:32:25] Dan: Yeah. 

[00:32:26] James: Yeah, absolutely. I'd say certainly canteen. 

[00:32:28] Jeff: Yes, 

[00:32:29] James: my favorite

quick serve. 

[00:32:31] Dan: where it's going to say. Yeah, I like that. And that's 

the same reason. 

One of my picks at Hollywood studios is because it's like, it's right on the line between it's like a quick serve, but the quality of the food and the environment is more like sitting down at a

table service restaurants. 

[00:32:46] Jeff: it's cool. And the food is designed and prepared it since you're game

worthy, but it 

[00:32:50] James: Yeah.

[00:32:50] Jeff: good. 

[00:32:51] James: Yeah. They put some real thought into that place in terms of like, you know, the quality of the food and the presentation and 

all that. And the 

theming, like you said, you know, I think that's something that, 

[00:33:00] You know, maybe people don't think about when they're 

booking their trips, 

but something like 

you know, Pinocchio was village house.

Garbage food but it's 

Really like it in that 

place, you know?

[00:33:09] Jeff: That's

[00:33:10] Heather: Yes.

[00:33:10] James: yeah. Especially the upstairs, but yeah. so truly canteen is a perfect blend of 

theming and quality of the 


relatively inexpensive and and fast, 

like I think it's just 

kind of hits all the marks in terms of what you want from a 

[00:33:23] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:33:24] Dan: No.

Yeah. It's,

that's my favorite spot there. I do like the

what's the barbecue spot.

[00:33:29] Jeff: filing tree 

[00:33:30] Dan: Yes.

Yes. That is still.

[00:33:32] Jeff: That's a great view down there. you 

get down by the water 


you time it You could 

catch a kite crashing into the place.

[00:33:40] Heather: Yes,

And a show. 

[00:33:42] Jeff: 

What is the Asian

place? There's a sit down side and a

[00:33:45] Heather: Oh 

[00:33:45] Jeff: Yeah, yakking Yeti quick services. Awesome. 

[00:33:48] Heather: window is 

gas. So 


It's you know, your typical,

[00:33:52] Jeff: to go eat 

[00:33:53] Heather: yeah, 

that's true.

[00:33:55] Jeff: little

court outside. 

[00:33:57] Heather: I like to get a, boozy Dole 

weapon, taboo in the [00:34:00] animal kingdom. 

[00:34:00] Jeff: you know, you had booze 


deal with and I'm just here for


[00:34:04] Heather: right. 

[00:34:04] Jeff: care. What kind

of, you could pour a Miller 

light over a Dole 

[00:34:07] Heather: Ah, gross.

[00:34:08] Jeff: it. 

[00:34:08] Heather: Maybe not that.

[00:34:10] Dan: Maybe we need to hold an intervention. 


[00:34:12] Heather: Yeah.

[00:34:13] Jeff: I'm fine. 

[00:34:14] Dan: I have to be honest, I've used up my two spots that. 

I've actually eaten at animal kingdom, quick serve or 

table service. 

[00:34:22] Heather: 


[00:34:23] Jeff: bay 

area food court 

[00:34:25] Heather: yeah,

[00:34:26] James: you know 

[00:34:27] Heather: It's kind of a food truck type vibe back in there.

[00:34:31] James: ate at Harambie last week and I'd heard a lot of good things about it. I was severely underwhelmed 

[00:34:37] Heather: Oh no. 

[00:34:39] James: I got to tell you guys, I'm sorry to disagree. 

[00:34:41] Jeff: window, 

what'd you

[00:34:43] James: They've only got one window now.

[00:34:45] Heather: That's the problem. 

[00:34:46] James: they've got one window and they just do rice balls. So.

it's a rice bowl 

[00:34:50] Heather: Oh, man. 

[00:34:52] James: rice bowl with ribs, 

[00:34:54] Heather: COVID has 

killed everything. Good,

[00:34:56] James: And B, 

[00:34:57] Jeff: COVID 

[00:34:58] Heather: too bad. Yeah.[00:35:00] 

[00:35:00] James: awful.

[00:35:00] Jeff: Now that was 

the fun of it. It was different selections in each of those


around there. 

[00:35:05] James: And 

I was pumped to go to it, but now it's just a, yeah. It's one window really truncated menu and 

[00:35:11] Heather: That's unfortunate. 

[00:35:12] James: so many good things about it. 


It's just very very disappointed with 

the experience.

So hopefully they 


get that back up and running the way it used to 


[00:35:19] Jeff: He was, were so disappointed you had to eat your hot dog. 

All right, man. Here, I'm eating my prop

[00:35:25] James: funny. Yeah. No, you don't. After spending a day in the parks with these hot dogs and putting them on all these different surfaces, 

[00:35:33] Heather: No, there's no



[00:35:35] James: that. 

[00:35:35] Jeff: and now for my COVID 


[00:35:37] Heather: Ooh, gross. 

[00:35:39] James: I'd rather eat a cosmic rays and 

[00:35:41] Heather: And that's

[00:35:42] Jeff: I don't know. 

I don't know. 

That's a tossup Hollywood studios

[00:35:47] Heather: Ron tow roasters for B those Rancho wraps.

[00:35:51] Jeff: that, Yeah, that, that thing is weird, but

again, with the theming and the quality and everything it's right on. 

[00:35:57] Heather: Yeah, And it has like three kinds of [00:36:00] pork in it. 

[00:36:00] Dan: Yeah.

[00:36:01] Jeff: What is 

it? It's a sausage and a slice of.

[00:36:04] Heather: yeah.

[00:36:05] Jeff: Park 

and then CA I don't even 

[00:36:06] Heather: and then some kind of slaw it's so 

[00:36:09] James: slaw. And then some it's like a 

Dressing on 

top. Yeah. 

[00:36:12] Jeff: space ranch.

[00:36:13] Dan: yeah. I 

love that. I was pleasantly surprised when you just read the description. It's like, I don't know about this, but it's, 

it works, especially 

in the setting and then that, to the other

spot that I was mentioned was docking bay seven is

[00:36:29] Heather: Yes.

[00:36:29] Dan: that line between it's quick center, but it gives you, yeah. It gives you the tip yet a little bit deeper

experience there. Yeah, 

[00:36:37] Jeff: I tried the tip yet just to see how it feels and I liked it.

[00:36:41] Heather: was good.

It was 


[00:36:42] James: Yeah, I completely agree with you guys. It I had on my list,

Docubase seven slash Toronto roasters. Documentary seven does do the Rondo

rap. So you 


get it 

in there, which is

great, but it's,

It's kind of. 

[00:36:53] Jeff: and 


air conditioned. 

[00:36:54] James: it's kind of a 

mirror image of canteen And it kind of

does it serves 


Has the same 

kind of thing with the theming [00:37:00] and the quality of the food.


like both of those places are 

just rock stars in terms of quick serve.


I love docking bay seven so much, and the they've got a really good plant-based option to, 

 I go to the parks with people who are vegetarian and vegan and they've got these vegan meatballs are like ridiculously good.

They come with some hummus 

and all that

[00:37:20] Heather: Ooh 

[00:37:21] Jeff: in docking bay seven. 

[00:37:22] James: Yeah. Really good. 

[00:37:23] Heather: I also like Andy's lunchbox It's They have some great stuff on that menu.

[00:37:28] Jeff: If they had more shade or an indoor part, I would love it, 

but I am always just so hot trying to have my food out there. The whole area is just too sunny.

[00:37:38] James: Yeah.

[00:37:39] Heather: They're homemade pop tarts for

And those tacos.

[00:37:43] Jeff: Yeah. The tacos are fire.

[00:37:44] James: what he's lunchbox was number two on my 

list for a Hollywood studios. I think that's an example of good kids 


you know, you're we were talking about like, you know, having, you know, having to make, 

Sacrifices, so your kids will lead something, but like 

Yeah. W The 

lunchbox, [00:38:00] like that's like good quality 

kids, food that is approachable and accessible, but still 

like a good quality. 

[00:38:07] Dan: Yeah.

I had the I w I ate there in November, also in, I tried for the first time, the the barbecue brisket melt. 

It was

[00:38:14] Jeff: That is good. 

Went right at grand opening and we didn't get the hit the breakfast, but we went at lunch and because we were covering it for our website and and everything, we ordered literally everything 

on the menu and just got it all out there to take pictures and all of the aid, everything, every 

single thing we tried was delish.

[00:38:31] James: No, it's a great spot too. If you like, this is like quick serve is baseline tap 

house. They don't have a whole 

lot of stuff there, but I think 

they do a pretzel. I've got the 

menu up here. They do a Bavarian pretzel 

with beer, cheese, fondue the deal with coffee 

rubbed, Rita ribeye, beef puff. 

They do a cheese and charcuterie plate and 

then they 


[00:38:51] Jeff: there's charcuterie 

is good. 

[00:38:52] James: Really, good.

It's only. 

[00:38:53] Jeff: Honestly, that pretzel I like better than the one in the Germany 


[00:38:57] James: Yeah. 

Yeah really good. And then they got great 

[00:39:00] beers. It's nice little kind of quiet out of the way spot 

and yeah. So I 

stopped by there almost every time I'm 

at the studios. 

[00:39:07] Jeff: We did an episode a while back on people watching. And that was like the spot for all of us to just what? Cause you got that whole corner to watch everything go down and watch all the star wars nerds come out of 

Galaxy's edge. And then all the dads that are so sad that they're broke now. 

That's fun. 

[00:39:25] James: Yeah. I think I saw a divorce last time 

I was at a baseline, 

You know, 


speaks. God, 

speaks. to that family, but wish them the best. But yeah, 

I agree with you on the people watching you see yeah, it's a 

sort of a meeting. 

[00:39:38] Jeff: it's not exactly 

quick service It is a sit down, but you don't have to have a raise or

anything, but the little 

patio version of the brown Derby is great. Sit in there. It's

shady. It's a nice also people watching spot and you can get that little Cobb salad. Good stuff.

[00:39:53] James: Yeah, I fallen in love, you know, to to switch to table service for a second. I've fallen in love with the brown Derby over the last year. [00:40:00] Like, it's become like a must do for me. You know, 

[00:40:02] Jeff: Yeah. 

[00:40:03] James: I'll just, I'll make a dinner reservation 

and just go to the park for that and then head home. 

I liked that. 

[00:40:09] Jeff: to 

Really pop in there and out pretty quickly at Hollywood studios. 

[00:40:13] James: Yeah. Anything on the main strip? They're so easy. Every, you know, it's funny, every time I 

go to Hollywood studios, I forget how small it is. 


[00:40:19] James: Number of times I've been there, you know, 

[00:40:21] Dan: I'm starting to realize, as we 

talk about this, 

I'm starting to wonder where I actually eat when I actually 


[00:40:27] Jeff: I think you don't, 

you just you're a ride warrior. Cause you only go once a 


[00:40:32] Dan: yeah, at best. So it's like, I don't 

prioritize, I guess

I must do a lot of 

snacking or something. 

[00:40:37] Jeff: And you're a dad of young kids, so you're on a whole different timeline to, 

[00:40:42] Dan: Yeah. But.

[00:40:44] Jeff: Maybe we can remedy that. 

[00:40:45] Dan: Yeah. We're working 

[00:40:46] Jeff: all your 

kids. No, I'm just kidding. 

Let's go. We'll take you to some places. 

[00:40:50] Dan: we're going kid free in February. So we've got some plans for 

some quite a bit 

Of dining adventures actually. So 

[00:40:58] Heather: That's the best 

kind of adventure [00:41:00] at 

Disney world? 

[00:41:01] Dan: yeah, 

we're looking 

[00:41:01] Jeff: second. Best. 

[00:41:02] Heather: Yes, that's 


[00:41:04] Dan: I don't want to know what the first 


[00:41:06] James: Yeah, I was waiting to hear what they had. 

[00:41:08] Jeff: It was naughty 

[00:41:09] Dan: I figured 

either naughty or it's going to be a drinking adventure. So 

[00:41:12] Jeff: And 

maybe both 

[00:41:14] Heather: Yeah.

[00:41:15] Dan: One could lead to the 

other, there's cross knock 

on wood. I mean we've covered 

the parks 

pretty thoroughly, 

other spots, 

Disney Springs resorts. 

[00:41:22] Heather: right answer at Disney 

Springs. One main right answer 


[00:41:25] Jeff: let's hear 


[00:41:26] Heather: Polite pig. 

[00:41:27] James: Yeah.

[00:41:28] Dan: It's delicious. 

[00:41:29] Jeff: stuck there. That's 

[00:41:30] Heather: Yes. 

[00:41:30] Jeff: get off the plane and you know, the rooms aren't ready at the hotel, you just, 

[00:41:35] Heather: straight to polite. Big.

[00:41:37] Jeff: of good barbecue, 

but that's exceptional. I liked that sampler platter.

[00:41:40] Heather: so 


[00:41:42] Dan: I'm going to be honest. I liked the polite pig a lot,

even better for barbecue though. Is that, 

Muppets? Barbecue at

[00:41:49] Heather: We keep missing that. We keep saying that we're going to go there instead of the polite pig. And then we get to the Disney Springs 

[00:41:56] Dan: Yeah. Yeah, 

[00:41:57] Heather: and the car just goes right to [00:42:00] Disney Springs 

[00:42:01] Jeff: Yeah.

I do like regally go right there. 

W we did it. We were able to do sales thing where they brought us in there and let us try every 

single thing on the menu. And I liked everything to me, just personally, polite pigs, a little bit better, 

but both are excellent. And Epcot needed. Something like That 

That thing they had in the American pavilion was shameful. 

[00:42:22] James: Oh. 

[00:42:23] Jeff: actually 

pretty indicative of America, but

[00:42:25] Heather: Yeah.

[00:42:26] Jeff: was just burgers and dogs and garbage food, but that regularly goes good. 

[00:42:30] Dan: Yeah. 

[00:42:31] Heather: I'm going to have to try it because I haven't gotten my made 

it there yet. So

[00:42:35] Dan: Then the borrow side has a pretty good 

selection too.

[00:42:37] Heather: this is

[00:42:38] Jeff: to me, when I'm in world showcase, I'm trying all the 


countries food. And I never 

think I 

would like some barbecue when I've got or whatever else all around.

[00:42:47] Dan: No.

[00:42:47] Heather: true. 

[00:42:48] James: Yeah, I do love plight 

peg at Disney Springs. I've already mentioned BB Wolf. They're really good. There's 

[00:42:53] Heather: Yeah. We got to


that one 

[00:42:54] James: yeah, there's a poutine place there. That's good. 

[00:42:57] Heather: yes. The poutine 


[00:42:59] James: [00:43:00] you have to hit that up. 

[00:43:00] Jeff: It's because you have to eat outside. I 

[00:43:02] Heather: Yeah,

had Thanksgiving


there, one Thanksgiving and it was like fries with 

dressing and gravy and Turkey, 

mashed potatoes and cranberry sauce and, oh, it was so good.

[00:43:14] James: So good.

[00:43:15] Heather: Yeah,

[00:43:16] Jeff: sold

[00:43:16] Heather: it was delicious. 

[00:43:17] James: have a kind of a variation on that at festival of the holidays. Now I 

forget what it, a booth that said, but it's 

a Turkey, a gravy, a poutine. So if you hit up, cut 

[00:43:27] Heather: stop. 

[00:43:28] James: of the year 

[00:43:29] Dan: Yeah.

[00:43:30] Heather: You're right. 

[00:43:30] James: I've got I go to the 

resorts a lot, you know, I spend as much time at the resorts as I do the parks just cause I like to go and hang out and like sometimes I'll take my laptop and do some work and

just drink some coffee.

[00:43:41] Jeff: That's so weird. I love that idea. 


[00:43:43] James: It's relaxing. Cause it's like, live downtown I'm in 

downtown Orlando, is just like concrete and traffic. Like it's, 

Not a good time, but, 

So it's almost like going on a little mini vacation, 

It takes me 30 minutes to get over to Disney 

and yeah, I'll go, you know, my girlfriend [00:44:00] again, we'll just hang out at the resorts.

We'll spend a day there, 

you know, just goofing off,

you know, and pretend like we're tourists for a 

day. But, 

The Riviera 

[00:44:08] Heather: you're talking my 

language right 

[00:44:10] James: first off, I love that place. So


[00:44:12] Heather: Yes. 

[00:44:13] James: wilderness lodge is my favorite resort.

Riviera is number two 


now on my 

list and they're 

[00:44:19] Jeff: my 


[00:44:20] James: yeah, 

[00:44:21] Heather: Me too. 

[00:44:21] James: got this trio of quick 

serves that are amazing. 

So they've got the Primo P auto 


Riva and LA petite cafe with. 

[00:44:30] Heather: Yup. 

[00:44:30] James: It's the 

best quick serve. I think it's the 

best food at any of the resorts right now in 

terms of, 

[00:44:37] Heather: It 



[00:44:38] James: Yeah. 

[00:44:38] Heather: service on property is Primo piano.

[00:44:41] Jeff: place breakfast

[00:44:42] Heather: Yes. 

[00:44:43] James: give you, I'll give you an, 

[00:44:44] Heather: with polenta. I 

could eat 

[00:44:46] James: I know it's so good. I'll give you guys a 

quick story. So my parents 

came down for their anniversary earlier this year, 

50 years, 

50th anniversary. You know, we took them all around the parks and it was there last night 

and we were going to go [00:45:00] to the bull and bear at the Waldorf, which is, you know, fancy pants dinner.

And they were exhausted. And they were like, you mind if we just stay at the hotel 

tonight? You know, for our last night they were at the Revere 

and I'm like, okay. And so I'm like 

I'll find something for us to eat. And I went down, I hit up the Primo piano 

bar, Raven 

and lipid tea cafe 

and just. A crap 

ton of food, 

right? Little bits. I got, you know, some 

olives, there were some sandwiches 

or coterie, yeah. Cheese plate. 

There was a big Bri this stuff 

and I 

brought it up to their room and it was their favorite meal

of the entire 


[00:45:39] Heather: that's 

[00:45:39] James: Yeah. It was just like having a little 


of all these

different things 

[00:45:42] Jeff: over bull and 


[00:45:44] James: serious, but anyway, 

so yeah, that's a, that's my pitch 


Riviera a quick serve is 

you know, can, throw together like 

a gourmet meal 

in a snap and just, you know, kick back

in your room and enjoy it.

And and 


that. So it's kind of a little [00:46:00] hack of mine. 

[00:46:00] Heather: I love it. That's a good hack. 

[00:46:02] Jeff: Yeah, I'd love in that hotel. 

[00:46:04] Heather: Toba Leno's is one of my, Yeah. 


[00:46:06] Jeff: had 

some issues, but I 

love it. 

[00:46:09] Dan:

[00:46:09] Heather: Hopefully knows is one of my favorite places 


[00:46:12] James: I also get 

[00:46:13] Heather: love 

holiness and the food is excellent. 

[00:46:16] Dan: my 

[00:46:16] Jeff: Every time I have a meal there, I barely remember it. 

[00:46:19] Heather: But you let you enjoy every 

minute of it. 

[00:46:22] Dan: I have to say, I'm a huge fan of captain Cook's 

at the Polynesian. It's 

got a,

[00:46:27] Heather: nachos 

On the chips

[00:46:29] Jeff: Pulled 

[00:46:30] Dan: Yeah.

Those are good, but then they've got those coconut pork meatballs. 

[00:46:33] Heather: Yes. 

[00:46:34] Dan: It's whole man. 

[00:46:35] Heather: Yes. 

[00:46:36] Dan: It's been literal like, 


[00:46:38] Dan: It's been more than five years since we've stayed there And I still dream about those meatballs regularly. 

[00:46:43] James: Yeah, those meatballs are another one of those things that I get when I'm leaving dizzy and I bring home with me, so I'll get 

[00:46:49] Dan: Oh, 

[00:46:50] Jeff: do that.

[00:46:50] James: I'll get orders of meatballs and then drive home and 

[00:46:54] Jeff: They travel well, too. I'm sure I have to 



place looks like crap though. I love the [00:47:00] food. There is good, but they got to do 

something about it. They've remodeled the whole 


and then 

that place still looks like a 

dump to me.

[00:47:07] Heather:

love guys are points at wilderness lodge. I don't know if it's 

technically quick serve. There's a quick 



[00:47:15] James: a half and half it's like 

[00:47:16] Heather: yeah. 

[00:47:16] James: quick table server or something like that. yeah. 

[00:47:19] Heather: Love it out there though. So much.

[00:47:21] James: If I have one place, 

it's like my happy place that isn't in the parks it's guys are point. Like 

[00:47:27] Heather: Yes. 

[00:47:27] James: up at that bar and just look at the view and hang out, like, you know? 

[00:47:32] Jeff: sat out there for hours and done a little work and a little network and stuff. It's a good hang. And even when it's super hot, which it often is, and Orlando is, it

feels fine in there.

[00:47:43] James: Yeah. Yeah. 


[00:47:43] Dan: I think we've covered pretty much all the areas of the resort pretty well. Are there standout? Awful. Don't do it that we didn't people off of or 

any outstanding, great spots that we didn't mention that we should throw a tip 


there for 

[00:47:58] James: I've got a one bad one [00:48:00] and one underwhelming. 

So my bad one is backlog express 

at Hollywood 


which is 

just depressing. Like it's just, I 

don't know that the structured stuff, 

[00:48:09] Jeff: everything


it as 

[00:48:10] James: this miserable and 

underwhelming and people are going to disagree on this one, Columbia Harbor 



oh, I know. And 

people rave about 


People have told me so many times how much they love that 

place. it's like bad, long John silvers. It's like 

[00:48:24] Jeff: it going to say? It's like if captain D's are long, John Silver's had 


[00:48:28] James: Yeah. Yeah. it's funny. It's like every 

I've been there

twice recently it's overcooked, that's like, you know, the breading soup, like hard as a rock on 


[00:48:39] Jeff: oily. 

[00:48:39] James: Yeah. Just really not a good place. 

[00:48:42] Heather: I would ever eat there was the tuna sandwich. 

[00:48:45] James: Yeah. 

[00:48:45] Heather: like their pride 

stuff. It was like a tuna salad sandwich. Yeah. 



[00:48:50] Jeff: I've only been there a handful of times. Fortunately, no one in my family 

wants to eat fish other than me and I don't like 

the fish there. so it's a


[00:48:58] Dan: Nice. 

[00:48:59] Jeff:

also [00:49:00] hate that Thanksgiving meal place upstairs or whatever that 

[00:49:03] Heather: the Liberty tree to have her.

[00:49:05] Jeff: That's garbage.

[00:49:06] Dan: Y nothing, says walking around a 90 degree, Orlando theme park,

[00:49:12] Heather: Like a heavy Thanksgiving meal. 

[00:49:14] Jeff: of Turkey.

[00:49:15] Dan: all those mashed potatoes and dressing and 


[00:49:18] Jeff: People really do love it. That one, I just can't figure it out.

[00:49:22] Dan: It's one of those things, why

can get it at home.

[00:49:25] Jeff: And if you 

ever go out to Disneyland and I hope you do, James, donate it flow. 

V8 cafe. Cute. Take lots of pictures. Get you out dog. Pick in front of

it. Don't eat there.

[00:49:35] James: Noted. Thank you. 

[00:49:36] Heather: our bitch.

[00:49:38] Dan: our show has a long-standing feud with the establishment

[00:49:41] Heather: Yup. 

We're not fans. 

[00:49:43] Dan: at 

all. No, don't go to flows.

[00:49:46] Jeff: Oh, we're early on that.

[00:49:47] Dan: Will come back around.

[00:49:49] Heather: time

[00:49:49] Dan: Yeah.

 Thank you so much

for joining us. Finally, it's

[00:49:53] Heather: Yes. We've tried a few times.

[00:49:56] Dan: That we 

[00:49:56] James: yeah. Thank you guys so much.

I've had a, yeah, you're 

super easy to talk [00:50:00] to I love your 


and yeah, just had a great, 

[00:50:02] Heather: watching for you. 

in the parks. I'm going to be looking for someone with a hot dog. 

[00:50:06] James: bozo with the hot dog wandering around 

just like 

this, the entire time 

[00:50:10] Heather: Yup. 

[00:50:11] James: cell phone and the

[00:50:12] Dan: Awesome.

[00:50:13] Jeff: like a, what do you call those? 

Like stop motion things. Where are you? Oh, long exposure. Things like walking with a hot

dog. That 


[00:50:21] James: I haven't gotten, I haven't gotten that creative yet, but that's I'll put that. on the list. 

[00:50:25] Dan: Advanced Wiener tech 

[00:50:26] Jeff: start,

at the train station and walk all the way To 

the castle with the hot dog out in front of you on time-lapse.

[00:50:32] Heather: Yes.

[00:50:33] Jeff: later. 

[00:50:33] James: that's great. I'll do that. Definitely.

[00:50:34] Dan: real quick. Want to let listeners know where they can find your 



[00:50:38] James: So I'm right now I'm on Instagram only. I'm thinking about branching out 

to a YouTube and stuff soon, but I'm on Instagram @hotdogsatdisney

and then  @hotdogsonthepeoplemover. If you want to see 

hot  dogs on the people mover. 

[00:50:54] Heather: art. Yes, 

[00:50:55] Jeff: I like the one with the 45 on there.

[00:50:58] James: Thanks, man. Appreciate. Yeah, [00:51:00] it's a, yeah, it's a lot of 

prop work on the the 

people mover. I'm like, like the carrot top of a 

Disney or 

something like That 

[00:51:07] Heather: I love it. It is.

[00:51:09] Jeff: No, you're not selling it. 

[00:51:11] James: so much, there's a better things to aspire. 


[00:51:13] Jeff: Thank 

you so much. 

[00:51:15] Dan: Yeah, thank you so much. Definitely go check out 

what James is 

up to and where he's taking his hot dogs next. 

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[00:52:07] Jeff:

[00:52:07] Heather: Bye everybody.

[00:52:08] Jeff: Don't eat a hot dog at Flo's

James from Hot Dogs at Disney

James is the artistic vision behind the popular Disney Instagram sites Hot Dogs at Disney, Hot Dogs on the People Mover, and Corn Dogs at Disney. He really likes Disney World. And hot dogs. Like, he likes them likes them.