March 2, 2022

Adventures By Disney:Antarctica

Adventures By Disney:Antarctica

Time for trip reports round two, as the Gold Key Adventurers Society goes way way way south of the border to explore Antarctica with Adventures by Disney. But first, travel news, including the cost of a ticket to ride on Sir Richard Branson’s spaceship...


Time for trip reports round two, as the Gold Key Adventurers Society goes way way way south of the border to explore Antarctica with Adventures by Disney. But first, travel news, including the cost of a ticket to ride on Sir Richard Branson’s spaceship, and glamping at the Four Seasons Punta Mita near Puerto Vallarta. Say hello to a penguin and watch out for leopard seals, it’s time to hit the trail with the Gold Key Adventurers Society!


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Antarctica hosts

[00:00:00] Dan: Welcome back to another meeting of the Gold Key Adventurers Society.

My name is Dan Leonard and joining me this week in

the studio is Heather's straight.

[00:00:07] Heather: Hello, 

[00:00:08] Dan: And Mr. Jorff Willamis,

[00:00:10] Jeff: Hello, Daniel.

[00:00:11] Heather: So formal. 

[00:00:12] Jeff: I assume Dan is short for Daniel. Maybe it's Dan lean. I don't know.

[00:00:16] Dan: No, unfortunately it is not Dan lane. maybe I'll go down to the social security office

and file for a change of yeah. Just for you, Jeff.

[00:00:26] Jeff: Dan Leen, Leonardo.

[00:00:28] Dan: Yeah. Oh, I 

like it alter ego. Our show as always is 

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[00:00:42] Heather: the whole entire. 

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dot key to the world. for more details and to no obligation quote on the vacation of a lifetime. So last we left off, you guys had just finished a finished up Disneyland, and now they're just getting ready to jet on, off to the very bottom of the world to hanging out with some penguins.

[00:01:03] Heather: bottom of the planet.

[00:01:05] Dan: Yeah. Like way down there. Let's get the news out of the way so that we can talk about that. Heather, what you got for me 

[00:01:10] Heather: great news. You can officially now book your space flight and get a seat on Virgin galactic. And it's a little bit cheaper than we were expecting only $450,000.

[00:01:23] Jeff: So have you like Heather have been to everywhere in the world here, you can start going to other worlds. 

[00:01:30] Heather: I was downstairs. Check-in under the 


cushions to see if anybody left a few hundred thousand dollars.

[00:01:37] Jeff: Did 

[00:01:37] Heather: around. No, sadly I did not find any,

but I'm going to work on it. Yeah. So two on February 16th is when the ticket 

sales officially opened up to the public

for the low deposit of $150,000.

the total price for your seat will come just under a half a million. 


flight leaves 

from Virgin spaceport America in new England, or sorry, New Mexico, Manu, England, and 

[00:02:07] Dan: These are very different places.

[00:02:09] Heather: very far

apart. It's not just your space flight. 

You get out there several days before and they 

want you to know that. And I 

hate this word, but

they're going to be bespoke training activities that you will do 

before you head into 

[00:02:25] Dan: how you clip on your seat belt. 

[00:02:27] Heather: Yeah, no. What else do you get for this $450,000 

you might ask you get you get 90 minutes in space

kids, 90 whole 


[00:02:40] Dan: That's better than if you travel with Bezos. 

[00:02:42] Heather: This is true. You only get a couple of minutes with 

him. Yeah. You get a 90 minute round

trip journey and up when you're in space,

you'll get some weightlessness, several 

minutes of weightlessness. So that's pretty

cool. I don't 


[00:02:56] Dan: extra to get the Barbarella package on That If you want to flood around naked, 

[00:03:01] Heather: Let me talk to Richard Branson.

I bet you, if you give him a few extra 

bucks, he'll make it 


[00:03:07] Dan: Sorry, dropped your train of thought. 

[00:03:09] Heather: Yeah. Jeff 

is just imagining it now.

[00:03:12] Dan: and now I'm imagining Jeff

[00:03:15] Jeff: he's imagining me imagining it. Do you have to wear the little 

Barbarella onesy

[00:03:20] Dan: Obviously,

[00:03:21] Jeff: I'm here 

[00:03:21] Dan: otherwise you Do this, not the whole experience

[00:03:24] Jeff: we go two hours in the space for that kind of money 

[00:03:27] Heather: I know, 90

[00:03:29] Jeff: So is that just to the right 

to the edge of space and back 

[00:03:32] Heather: pretty much you. actually go into outer space and then you're almost immediately coming back. 


[00:03:40] Jeff: boring. 

[00:03:41] Heather: But I think with bayzos it's you spend less time in space. 

and it's a million bucks. 


[00:03:46] Jeff: And you're with Jeff Bezos, 

[00:03:48] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:03:48] Dan: I was going to say, I think out of the three bond, felons that are currently taking people to 

outer space sir, Richard 


is the one that I would most like to

[00:03:57] Jeff: for

[00:03:57] Heather: me too. He seems like 

he'd be fun to

hang out with.

And I'd like to go on a cruise on his cruise line as well. 


[00:04:03] Jeff: yeah, he just seems like he 

wants to, He 

wanted to party on earth. He

wanted to party at sea. He wants to party in 

space where these other guys are just knobs.

[00:04:14] Heather: maybe if we sell enough of his cruises, I can get a ticket on his spaceship. 

[00:04:19] Dan: you go. Incentive program. I'll call them 


[00:04:22] Jeff: that. 

[00:04:23] Heather: You I'd appreciate

[00:04:24] Jeff: We'll have our vendor person, Brittany, speak to

[00:04:27] Heather: That'd be perfect. Now that I've been everywhere on the planet, I have to go to space. 

[00:04:32] Jeff: That's right. We've run, slap out of the 

places on the 

[00:04:36] Heather: almost next, next summer. I'm going to go to the Arctic now that I've been to Antarctica. 

[00:04:40] Jeff: I hope you can pay for that.

[00:04:42] Heather: I'm going to try. 

[00:04:43] Dan: What you need to do, what

you need to do is like how some of our agents did that east

coast to west coast castle challenge. You need to go 

Arctic to 

[00:04:52] Heather: You're making me tired right now, Dan. Cause when we get into it, it's they put Antarctica 

[00:04:58] Jeff: It's far away and a lot of water 


[00:05:01] Dan: they would've made it a little more 

convenient when they

[00:05:03] Heather: And how they say it's not the destination, it's the journey. 

[00:05:07] Jeff: They're 

[00:05:07] Heather: DySIS journey was something. I got a whole 

[00:05:11] Jeff: I will say, if you do go to the top of the world next year, that's a lot 

closer to Michigan. 

[00:05:16] Heather: It really is. It's not that far away. 

[00:05:18] Jeff: Yeah. It's like right next door. 

[00:05:20] Heather: just pop over to Norway and Yeah. He's, that's, you're not even that wrong really. I Look at it on a map. 

[00:05:27] Jeff: Yeah. It's like a three hour flight.

[00:05:29] Dan: It's closer to the Arctic circle. What is the 

[00:05:33] Heather: Yes.

[00:05:33] Jeff: yeah. 

[00:05:34] Dan: grand rapids, Michigan? I don't know how I feel

[00:05:37] Jeff: Now I'm sad.

[00:05:38] Dan: Yeah. Why do we

live here? It's weird. Yeah. So from Heather's favorite dream activity of flying in outer space,

why don't we talk about Jeff's favorite way to

spend his time and that's doing some camping.


[00:05:53] Jeff: is camping. I could probably 

[00:05:54] Heather: I would do this camping, 

[00:05:56] Jeff: or glamping as the I don't know who says it, but that's the term for it.

[00:06:02] Heather: not just glamping, but glamping via the 

four seasons.

They're opening a glamping experience in Mexico and the tents look not only enormous, but each of them has a private pool.

[00:06:14] Jeff: And by tint, these are not tense. These are like structures with a little awning sort of aspects to them. They're pretty spectacular.

[00:06:23] Heather: They're beautiful.

[00:06:25] Jeff: is in Playa. What is it near eat

[00:06:27] Heather: yes. And it's the forced state and you not only can do this glamping experience, but you also have full access to the four seasons resort. That's also right there. Four seasons Punto meta, but each tent has its own pool, its own hot tub and outdoor gym

And full bathrooms.

[00:06:47] Jeff: Jungle gym. 

[00:06:48] Heather: it's really 

not, it's really not much of 

a tent. It's really just a very fancy hotel room in the middle of the


[00:06:56] Jeff: it's like a little bungalow, but you're up in the 

trees. So it looks pretty 

I think that might be my 


thing I want to do. 

[00:07:03] Dan: It's a little more luxurious than 

The last, 

Tree house glamping in Mexico that we talked about. That 

y'all were 

a big, no on, because there was no electricity or 

[00:07:14] Heather: No air

conditioning and no indoor plumbing is a no for me. 

[00:07:19] Jeff: Yeah,

yeah. I'm with you there,

[00:07:22] Dan: Yeah, 

It looks 

[00:07:23] Heather: Yeah. So this there. 

[00:07:25] Jeff: signed me right on up 

[00:07:26] Heather: Yep. And it's not open yet. They just announced the plans that they're working on it. So it's not expected to open until sometime next year, but, 

[00:07:35] Dan: hell, I'd be in if it was only two and a half seasons.

[00:07:38] Jeff: to, especially all for.

[00:07:40] Heather: but all for.

[00:07:42] Dan: Yeah. That's a no brainer. 

[00:07:44] Jeff: The port of aorta area is awesome. If 

[00:07:47] Heather: just beautiful. 

[00:07:48] Jeff: you can get tips from my brother on like where to eat around there too,

[00:07:51] Heather: Where to eat and Vita. 

[00:07:53] Jeff: as a little insider

[00:07:55] Dan: Jeff really likes


[00:07:56] Jeff: We were we went to a conference in port of I R Ted. My brother was like, Hey dude, are you in Vyopta? Why didn't you hit me up for some tips and tricks? I'm like, I have not like hanging around and fire to I'm at a conference at a hotel. 

[00:08:11] Heather: All-inclusive that I won't be leaving. 

[00:08:14] Jeff: Yeah. Not going to wander down to the

town and check out the local flavor,

[00:08:19] Dan: Stick around because after The commercial 

We're going to hear all about how Heather 

got to Antarctica and back 

It's not unusual. When a Michigander takes a Midwinter vacation for them to head south to soak up some sun and thaw their cold, dark souls. For some strange reason, Heather hit south America and 

just kept on going south all the way to the land of glaciers and penguins.


tell us about your 

ultimate bucket list cruise to Antarctica with Adventures by Disney

[00:08:47] Heather: The funny part is that it was warmer in Antarctica when I was there than it was back home in Michigan,

[00:08:56] Jeff: As far away as it looks on the map.

[00:08:59] Heather: Oh. It's so far, and I was prepared. I knew how long it was going to take to get there, but the actual physically having to do it

[00:09:10] Jeff: So your actual planned itinerary seemed exhausting to me. And then that didn't go as planned, right? You were to leave and on a Thursday at 5:00 PM from grand 

[00:09:21] Heather: It did not. So I, yeah, I was supposed to leave on it was a Saturday and I had, it should have been my normal quick flight down to Atlanta to catch a flight from Atlanta to Buenos Aires that right off the bat, it started going 

wrong. The plane was my flight from 

grand rapids to Atlanta was delayed by three hours.

Not because of some bad weather, 

not because of anything unforeseen. I still actually to this day, don't know what delayed that flight. I heard 

mechanical problems at one


[00:09:55] Jeff: Was the plane there at 

[00:09:57] Heather: sweep. It was not here. 


was not at the

gate that never it was, it took, there was delayed by three 


So I was probably going to miss my connection in it, 

but I was told by the flight attendant on that 

flight. When we finally left not to, 

worry that they were 

holding the plane, because there was another flight that 

had been delayed and there were 10 more passengers 

because there were so many of us, they were going to hold the flight for us.

So I get to 

the gate and I knew that the plane 

was still there. They 

hadn't left. I landed about five 

[00:10:30] Jeff: gate in Atlanta, 

[00:10:31] Heather: Yes, I get to Atlanta. I landed about 

five minutes before that flight to Buenos Aires was scheduled to take off, but I stopped.

I got off the plane from 

grand rapids and I stopped and asked that agent, do I even run over 

there? and he checks and he says 

that the boarding door is still open. They're holding that plane go. So I ran, I get there and I walk up to 

the gate of this flight. That's leaving for Buenos Aires and I hear yelling, I go, this isn't gonna go well. And it was the other people who had been also told that the 

flight was being held and they, we 

arrived at this gate to find out they had given away all of our seats to

stand by passengers. They knew we were in the airport, they knew we were coming. They we'd all been told the flight was 

being held and the gate agent gave away our seats. 

[00:11:20] Jeff: and this is Delta by the 

[00:11:22] Heather: Yes. So right off the bat, 

it started, it went bad. And the gate agent. 

[00:11:26] Dan: for the people in the back. Jeff. 

[00:11:27] Heather: Yeah, Delta airlines. 

So the gate 

agent tell, announces to all of us, no big deal.

It's fine. 


rebooked you on the 

same flight tomorrow 24 hours later, 24 hour delay, no big deal. That it was a big deal for 

me because part of this Adventures by Disney is once you arrive in Buenos 

Aires, you're not even to the ship yet. You still have to travel all the way down the country of Argentina.

It's a long way 

[00:11:58] Jeff: on a chartered flight. There's one plane 

[00:12:01] Heather: one plane that everybody on this adventure has to be on. And part of it, part of the reason for that is COVID protocols. Disney's 

trying to create a bubble. They get you all into 

Buenos Aires. We've all had a 

PCR test by this point, just to get into 

Argentina because that's their COVID protocol. 

[00:12:20] Jeff: Here, the bubble was just you guys and the NBA, right?

[00:12:23] Heather: exactly. At once you arrived in Argentina Adventures by Disney administers the second PCR. So by this time you've had two PCR tests within two days, and they're fairly confident that we're starting off the trip in the, on the right foot. So I, if I don't get on that charter flight, which was leaving Monday 

morning at 6:00 AM, I can't go.

So I'm telling this to the gate agent 

and the gate agent, the Delta gate agent in Atlanta does not 

care. She doesn't care. She's, there's no other flight to Buenos Aires out of Atlanta. 

And that's, it. She's not willing to look at another airline, which we talked about this recently on the show I knew was something they had to do because they're delaying me 

[00:13:09] Jeff: If it's their fault. 

[00:13:10] Heather: their fault. It was not whether there was 

[00:13:14] Jeff: four 

[00:13:15] Heather: it's over four. Yeah. 

There was a blizzard happening in the country that night that I was trying to leave that was happening in new England. But it wasn't delaying things in Atlanta. It was not weather that caused this. So they're not willing to do a thing for me.

She won't look at other airlines. She won't look at other 

Delta flights from other cities other than Atlanta she's washed her 

hands of me. So meanwhile, the plane is still sitting there. 


in the gate with my laptop and I just start searching in 

any flight out of 

any airport on any airline 

in the United States that can get me to Buenos Aires by 6:00 

AM on Monday. 

And I find, 

Coincidentally a Delta 

flight. But the problem 

is it's leaving from JFK where there's a blizzard. Yes, 

[00:14:02] Jeff: and you're in Atlanta, 

[00:14:03] Heather: I'm in Atlanta. 

[00:14:04] Jeff: close to JFK. 

[00:14:06] Heather: they do have several flights from Atlanta to JFK on Delta, but they won't put me on. 

Because the gate agent says, there's a blizzard there. we're going to cancel these.

I know we're going to cancel these.

So I'm not going to put you on one So I find a

flight to it from Atlanta to JFK on jet blue.

And I tell them 

this, if I get myself to JFK on a different airline, will you 

put me on that flight to Buenos Aires? Absolutely. No problem. We will do that. They tell me they've done it. They show 

me that they've done it.


give me a piece of paper that says they've done it. So I get myself a hotel room 

spend the night in Atlanta. I get up at the crack of Dawn, go back to 

the Atlanta 

airport and find my bag, which was a miracle, but I really needed it. I'm going on an expedition to Antarctica it. My bag has snow pants and hats.

And you can't just show up 


[00:15:01] Jeff: You didn't wear one of those hats inside. 

[00:15:03] Heather: I did not. 

So that by, by some miracle I find my bag. I go back to the Delta counter and make sure for the third time, if I get myself to New York, you're going to have me on that plane. Absolutely. Here's the proof 


show me again. I've now at this point asked 

maybe four agents. Yeah. you're sure you're not going to 

cancel my ticket if I 

get to JFK on my own. Absolutely not. It's not 

going to be a 


[00:15:29] Jeff: Did she record them saying this. 

[00:15:32] Heather: I have now. I wish I had, 

because so the more the flight comes around, 

jet blue, the jet blue flight was delayed into JFK because there had been a blizzard and they were 

cleaning up. I want to say this, the jet blue delay was caused by weather and they automatically, without me having to even say anything, they put a hundred dollar credit in my jet blue. For a weather delay, 

[00:15:56] Jeff: And 

it's worth saying those two flights, they wouldn't put you on because they would be canceled. Did not get 

[00:16:03] Heather: It didn't get canceled. They got there. Yeah. They landed about the same time I did. So I get there, 

I get my bag. I get 

myself to the counter to 

check in for the 

flight from JFK to Buenos Aires. So it was not a 

Delta plane. It 

was an Aerolineas Argentinas, which is a codeshare partner. Shouldn't matter.

I get up to the counter to check in 

and they take my passport 

that they're weighing my bag. I'm thinking, this is great. I've got an hour till this flight checks takes off. Cannot believe I've made it. I'm so relieved. And then they start speaking Spanish. 

Oh, no. And I know enough Spanish to know that this is not good.

And it turns out that Delta canceled my ticket after telling me they wouldn't, they canceled my ticket because I didn't take Delta to JFK 

[00:16:56] Dan: Wait, who canceled your

[00:16:57] Jeff: are, so they 

[00:16:58] Heather: Delta. Did it Delta canceled the ticket because I flew a different airline to get 


[00:17:05] Jeff: so because you hadn't taken the one leg, they canceled your 

[00:17:08] Heather: because I 

didn't agree to go stand by on that leg, which was the only thing they were 

willing to do for me and 

assured me that it would be 

okay. they canceled the ticket. And I almost break 

down in 

front of these agents and an angel from Aerolineas says he was, they brought the manager over and he has me explained what happened. I tell him everything and he's Stay right here. I'm calling Delta and he called Delta and called, had to call several different people at Delta and it got 


He was yelling at them at one point, 

basically telling them to reinstate the ticket. 

[00:17:45] Jeff: There were seats there's available seats and she has paid for one 

[00:17:49] Heather: Yes. A Delta one seat. By the way, I didn't mention that part. When they gave away my standby 

seat, they gave away a 

Delta one seat, which is not their policy to stand by to someone on standby but long story short, this guy argued for 


His name was Aaron. He argued for me right up until the flight was supposed to leave at three 30 

and it wasn't 

until three 15 that he was able to 

get my ticket reinstated. And then he walked me to the front of security, walked me all the way to the 

gate, walked me onto the 

plane, made sure that I got in 

my seat.



[00:18:23] Jeff: gave her a hug and a kiss. 

[00:18:24] Heather: It was amazing. And I actually made it, so that's a 10 hour flight from actually from JFK. It was an 11 hour flight from JFK to Buenos Aires, but I made it and I got to the charter flight 10 minutes before the adventures by Disney group showed up. It 

[00:18:43] Jeff: Because they had all spent tonight in Buenos Aires, 

[00:18:46] Heather: They were all already there.

And I was standing at the charter checking gate when they got there. It was cool. They had all the adventure guides had been watching. My flight, knew where I was and it was very cool adventures by 

Disney is incredible. 

[00:19:00] Jeff: We had Disney executives texting her Hey, we're watching this whole 

[00:19:04] Heather: we see your flights. We're watching where, you're, we think you're going to make it, it's going to be amazing.

And I made it and there 


cheering and 

it was fantastic. But then you get, so you get to Buenos Aires and you still have a three and a half hour 


down to a 

city called , which is at the very tip of 


[00:19:21] Jeff: I never realized how dang far south Argentina 

[00:19:25] Heather: It's so 

far. It's the flight from Buenos Aires, which is at the top of the country down to the bottom is three and a half hours. It's a long way. And it's the Southern most city, most 

populated city on the planet. It's very cool. It's very cold down 

there. It's summertime. So it's like you land in Buenos Aires and it's 80 degrees.



you get down to , it's 30 degrees and there. 

[00:19:51] Jeff: a Wednesday in 

[00:19:52] Heather: Yeah, 

[00:19:52] Dan: yeah. 

[00:19:53] Heather: It's sad because climate change is really on 

display there. They told us that as as recently as 30 years ago, 

it WIA had snow 365 

days a year, and now they don't. Now they have a summer, we saw flowers, blooming. It was cold for summertime, but it was probably 

40, 45 degrees.

And that's, that's really, that's only a few decades ago that it was a snowy there all the time. Announced not, but 

[00:20:18] Jeff: That's a myth. 

[00:20:19] Heather: yeah, so you get down there and then what you have to do is board your expedition 

ship, and you still have two more days before you antarctica. It's just 

[00:20:31] Jeff: I am already such

[00:20:32] Dan: but at least they're calm, relaxing days of 

[00:20:34] Heather: No. You have to go through something called the Drake passage, which allegedly I am told can be calm. 


[00:20:42] Jeff: which is named after rapper entertainer, Drake. 

[00:20:45] Heather: From Canada. It's his 

passage. We listened to 

Drake music the entire time. 

Yeah. You leave OU SWI and it's a fits really pretty. Patagonia is beautiful. 

Really nice. And 

it's that little town 

is crazy because it's, it looks like a whole bunch of different 

little European towns, 

just all combined and stuck there. There's yeah, cause there's some of the architecture looks Swiss and some 

of it looks Spanish and it's just whatever influence of all the different explorers that have been in that region of the world.

We had, 

before we boarded the ship, they took us for an Argentinian barbecue lunch, which is just 

all kinds of meat. We had lamb. 

Beef and 

[00:21:27] Jeff: like a Brazilian steakhouse 

type of thing. 

[00:21:30] Heather: like 

that. Just a big, giant pile of meat.

It was delicious. 

[00:21:35] Jeff: So you're on the ship. 

[00:21:36] Heather: So you're on the ship for two days in the Drake passage and it's 

the most intense seize I have ever experienced in my life.

I've got some video 

that I took from the dining room, where the, the waves are coming up and hitting 

the, you, it looks like you're 


So there was a couple of guests who were, we were, our 

room was on the, on deck six, which is the highest 

passenger deck. It's a pretty small ship. Some people just down the way from us lost their balcony furniture to 

a wave

on Dex six. 

[00:22:13] Jeff: oh my God. 

[00:22:15] Heather: It, the wave came up and took their furniture 

[00:22:18] Jeff: So you don't want to be hanging out on your balcony during

[00:22:20] Dan: And, 

Didn't you say that was like a four out of 

[00:22:23] Heather: This is what the captain told us that it was going to be about a four or five out of 10. I don't want to experience 

[00:22:30] Jeff: afterwards, did he say, yeah, that was about a 


[00:22:32] Heather: He said he 

thought he would put it at about a five or a six. That it was. Yeah. And it, I did get sick. 

My traveling companion, 

Another key to the 

world travel advisor, Brittany, she didn't get sick.

Brittany was taking Meclizine 


No, I didn't take any medication and I was fine, 


This ship was during the Drake passage showed two days down and 

then when you're coming back, you got to go back through it. 

The ship was a ghost town. There were people who never left their room because they were So sick

[00:23:04] Jeff: Yeah. We have other agency owner, friends that for two whole days just doubled up their Dramamine and stayed in their rooms asleep. 

[00:23:11] Heather: slept 40 


[00:23:14] Jeff: They woke up in eight, made some videos for Facebook and went right back to 

[00:23:18] Heather: One of the adventure guides, he, this was his second time to Antarctica and he got so, so sick that he couldn't leave his 

room. And there are a lot of people that were, I saw Mo I would say probably most of the passengers were wearing those, 

Patches motion sickness Scola mean, I think that's how you 

pronounce it. Patches. And then a lot of the crew were 

too, but 

it's wild. Like 

you get used to, when you take a shower, 

you bought a, put your one foot on either side of brace yourself. 

I had bruises all over from just all 

of a sudden the wave would hit and you smack into a 


or something. It was crazy. But as soon as you get through that, and 

you're in Antarctica, it's glass. And it really

[00:24:02] Jeff: So that passage is between two seas, 

[00:24:05] Heather: three, actually. Yeah, it's the Atlantic heading the Pacific. And then the Southern ocean is coming up from the south and hitting those two and you're going through that. And most of the time it is rough.

Actually on the way back, it was even worse. He 

had, the captain had told us it wasn't going to be as bad and it was 

worse because the ship was 

coming up. Like the nose would come up out of 

the water and, then smack down.


[00:24:31] Dan: do it so 

[00:24:32] Heather: it's 

[00:24:32] Jeff: but the good news is after a harrowing sailing, then you're in just gross cold. 

[00:24:40] Heather: It wasn't that cold a and B it was some of the most spectacular scenery I 

have ever seen. I saw pictures before 

we were leaving, but we were at dinner when land first came into to view and the, everybody looked out the window kind of at the same time and saw it. And we all just ran because it was so beautiful.

The icebergs and the sea ice, and pictures of the blue glaciers and they really do look like that. 

It's just incredible. So we sailed as far 

south as we were going to 

go and woke up the next morning for our first landing. And I will the thing about an 

expedition cruise that it's worth saying to anybody who is thinking about doing this, is

[00:25:29] Jeff: He really selling it? so 

[00:25:30] Heather: Yeah, I know. It is worth 


all off the people who 

[00:25:35] Jeff: left your house four days ago. 

[00:25:37] Heather: And we're finally there. And all of the people who did get very sick, we talked to every, really everybody on the ship and the people that we hadn't seen and all of them were at the end of this trip, all of them were willing to go 

back through that again, to go back to Antarctica.

They loved it so 

much. So it's definitely worth it. It takes a lot to get there. And expedition cruise is much more active than. 

A typical, an ocean cruise because the whole point of it is the stuff that you get to do when you get there. It's, there's 


as much on the ship. I will say the ship was very comfortable. I loved it. 

It was beautiful. Adventures by 

Disney charters 

Penn, not ship, 

Which is it's a French French yacht company. And it's very fine dining. The food was amazing. The 

interiors of the ship are great. There's plenty of lounges and bars, but it's not a big ocean ship. So you don't have casinos and ice rinks.

Yeah. Stuff like that. 


[00:26:34] Jeff: bumper cars. 

[00:26:35] Heather: no, 

There is a 

swimming pool, which is 

kept heated to hot tub temperatures. It's empty when you're going 

through the Drake passage, 

but then they fill it up once you get 



[00:26:44] Dan: It gets filled up through the Drake passage. 

[00:26:47] Heather: Yeah, actually wait when you're in the Drake

passage, if it is super choppy, which we had they have all the 

doors like exterior doors 

closed for that.

You can't go out on deck, they don't want you falling over. But you get there, there's no nighttime really it's this time of year during the summer, it's 24 hours of light, which is crazy. I had never experienced that before, but the great part about that is as you have a ton of time 

to do all of the stuff and all of the stuff that you get to do is just incredible.

I was obsessed with getting to see a penguin and I saw approximately 20 million of them. 

The very first landing we did was that on the actual continent. And so you have to get off of your 

expedition ship onto these little. Rubber 

boats called Zodiacs, and then they take 

you onto 

land and they provide you with a parka 

because it's cold and they also get in the park or you get to keep 

and stuff like the greatest souvenir ever.

And then they also give you knee high, rubber boots, because really you're hopping off of these little boats in the water. So you need waterproof boots and waterproof pants. 

[00:27:57] Jeff: hunter boot 

[00:27:58] Heather: Yeah, exactly. And they give you those. So you don't have to pack that. You have to pack waterproof pants. So we all had like ski pants 

and you have to pack your own, hats and gloves and 

[00:28:10] Jeff: They don't give you a hat like a toboggan. 

[00:28:12] Heather: Adventures by Disney did give us. 

Yeah, normally I don't think that's part of it before you go adventures. Any adventures by Disney trip, you get a package in the mail before your trip. That includes some stuff to use on the trip. And then just some fun souvenirs. This time they gave us a really nice, 

Dry bag 


So it's completely waterproof in case it falls in the water, all your gear, keep 

your camera gear and stuff and a hat. 

And the penguins were amazing. The wildlife is 


[00:28:41] Jeff: How's that penguin shit 

[00:28:43] Heather: it smells bad. it smells 

really bad. if you've ever been to the penguin enclosure in a zoo, you 

know that it doesn't 

[00:28:49] Jeff: And that's eight penguins.

[00:28:51] Dan: right.

[00:28:52] Heather: The smallest penguin colony we visited had 20,000 


[00:28:56] Jeff: Wow. 

[00:28:58] Heather: it's a

[00:28:58] Dan: That's a couple of penguins. 

[00:28:59] Heather: It's a lot. Oh, the second day we got up and we hadn't even opened the curtains yet. And I, 

as soon as I opened my eyes, I knew that we were in a bigger penguin colony because I could smell them from inside the ship with the doors closed.

It was that one was I think 2 million, one, 

one or 2 million penguins.

It's so many penguin. 

[00:29:25] Jeff: And they're just on this little 

[00:29:27] Heather: They're just walking around and you get off when your land, there's a penguin, two feet 

from you and they just walk around and they ask you, they say, the rule is you need to try to stay 15 feet away from them, but they don't follow those rules.

So if a penguin walks up to you, you let it, you just stop. And they're curious about you. The little baby 

[00:29:49] Jeff: is this big old penguin? 

[00:29:51] Heather: The babies, aren't curious. The babies are a little 

[00:29:54] Jeff: Babies are stupid. I say. 

[00:29:56] Heather: But you also gotta be prepared that you 


the circle of life. I saw so many baby penguins snatched by seabirds.


[00:30:04] Jeff: That's my favorite part, really? just smack them on 

a rock to bust them open so they can eat.

[00:30:08] Heather: That's what they do. And I 


[00:30:10] Jeff: Yeah. 

[00:30:11] Heather: So many times 

I saw a leopard seal eat a penguin. I saw an Orca eat a penguin and they play with it. First. They throw it up in the 

[00:30:20] Dan: Orcas are assholes. 

[00:30:23] Heather: and I saw 

it by saw it in person. 

[00:30:26] Dan: Yes. 

[00:30:27] Heather: They throw it up in 

the air and play with it and then they eat it. And part of it 

went floating by,


[00:30:31] Jeff: Yeah, they do that. I've seen them doing that with seals. 

[00:30:34] Heather: Oh, the seals do that too. 


[00:30:36] Jeff: but the orcas eating 

[00:30:37] Heather: Oh yeah. 

[00:30:38] Jeff: toss it around like a cat with a mouse 

[00:30:40] Heather: Yup. We saw humpback whales as well as the orcas. I liked the humpbacks. They didn't eat any penguins. They were nicer, but it's it's a very active adventure. We did a lot of hiking. Yeah. I 

[00:30:53] Jeff: to do any water sports. 

[00:30:55] Heather: I kayaked 

[00:30:57] Jeff: Oh 

[00:30:57] Heather: it's the last time I 

will ever kayak. 

[00:31:01] Jeff: a lake or a, maybe a light for a 

[00:31:04] Heather: I've been kayaking before I've 

been canoeing before and I really 

like it. So when I 

saw on, the offerings 


yeah, I know what, 

other places, 

but I've never see kayak. And I was assured by the adventure guides that they do, the the, this excursion is run by pinata, not by the adventure by Disney guides.

And they assured me though that they do not take people out unless the sea is glass. There can't be any 


There can't be any waves. It has to be 

completely flat because they know that people might be beginners. 

[00:31:40] Jeff: What about apex predators? 

[00:31:42] Heather: my 

God. So the first two groups, when they went out, it was as advertised. They were floating around in the CIS.

There's no waves. They take us out the morning. They take us out there, Brittany. 

See what the weather conditions are and we 

start to get worried, but we're thinking 

it's okay. They would never take us out there if it wasn't safe, oh my God, 

[00:32:01] Jeff: they might

[00:32:02] Dan: See, this person has awesome to me. I 

[00:32:05] Heather: you might've liked it, Dan, you might've liked it. So first of all, you have to get in the 

Zodiac and they take you out into the middle of the ocean and you have to climb from your Zodiac into another 

one and then get in 

the sea kayak on this floating raft 

thing, which might be fine when the there's no waves, but there are so many ways.

So we 

[00:32:26] Jeff: say you're trying to, 

any experience person trying to climb into 

[00:32:30] Heather: Yeah, we got in no problem. Then our first problem was 

that they I'd never been in a kayak that had a 

rudder. I've always steered with the paddle. This kayak had a rudder that you work with your feet. 

And I'm very 

short And I couldn't reach the pedals

and they look at them and the guy's oh, I'll move them 

up for you a little bit. So he moves them up for a little bit And he tells me that


fine. And he sends us out and I still couldn't reach him. 

I'm li I'm like laying practically 

flat with 

my feet stick. I could not reach the dang 

pedals. And so we, I was in the back having to work the pedals. I can't reach them. And the other 

kayaks are getting further and 

further away. And it's at this point 

that the 

[00:33:15] Jeff: sure they put those pedals on her 

[00:33:17] Heather: Yeah. 

The guy did 

eventually have 

to paddle 

up in his kayak and practically climb in 

mind to fix the pedals so that I could reach them. But by this point, we're at the back of the 

pack and we start hearing the guides pointing out leopard seals, 

and I was so worried about.

Steering this damn kayak that it doesn't even occur to me, that they had told us that it's very dangerous to be kayaking 

with leopard seals, that if they see one they're concerned and we will probably have to go in at this 


we spotted 10 to 12 of them. 

[00:33:55] Jeff: Probably attracted to you're flailing around 

trying to control. 

[00:33:59] Heather: it occurs to us that we're at the back of the pack. And if they think of us as 

[00:34:04] Jeff: You're the weak

[00:34:05] Heather: where are the weak penguin, 

[00:34:07] Dan: the baby


[00:34:08] Jeff: The big, weak yellow penguin. 

[00:34:10] Heather: the weak injured penguin? Who's at the back of the pack and 

The S the leopard seals start swimming around our kayak in a circle. And at some point, the guide. 

Comes flying in, in his kayak to put himself between us and a leopard seal. And I'm still not computing that this thing is 

hunting us. I

[00:34:29] Jeff: Yeah. 

[00:34:30] Heather: they start getting concerned and they finally get us all into a pack and say, okay this is very dangerous. 

We're worried when we see one and we've seen a dozen and we've got to get you guys out 

of here. And 

[00:34:42] Jeff: way over there. 

[00:34:43] Heather: we realized that they, the people who weren't kayaking, they 

were taking them out in the little motorized Zodiacs. We realized that all of them are 

gone. Like they don't even want the people in the Zodiacs around these leopard seals because they will attack a boat. 

[00:34:58] Jeff: So did you get out your harpoons? 

[00:35:00] Heather: yeah, we should have, we could have maybe sold some seal blubber, but I have a really great photo, really up close of a leopard 

seal. So there's that.

And we got a certificate that said 

[00:35:13] Jeff: So did you have to paddle all the way back to the boat since they took your Zodiacs? 

[00:35:18] Heather: No, the Zodiac comes back to get 

you, so you have to get out of your kayak again onto the floating raft 

thing and you roll out. I'm sure it looked 


graceful. Hopefully there's some 

[00:35:28] Jeff: Is there a video of, 

[00:35:29] Heather: and then you climb into a Zodiac and then into the other one and they take you back onto the ship.

So we survived. I will never do it again. The kayaking part 

ever, even if 

[00:35:40] Jeff: When you're going to have that opportunity again?

[00:35:42] Heather: that was the only part of it that I didn't really enjoy, but it's a funny story that I got hunted by 

a leopard seal though. There's that part? 

[00:35:52] Jeff: Very few people have had That 

[00:35:54] Heather: That is true. Every other landing 

[00:35:56] Jeff: for the low price of 20 grand. You could do that. 

[00:35:59] Heather: be fair. 

The two groups that went before us on the previous day 

in the calm water could not stop 

raving about how 

amazing it was,

how we didn't have that same experience, but adventures by Disney made it 

right. And they refunded all of our money from that excursion.

That was the only excursion that isn't included.

We paid for that 


but we got our money back and 

the adventure guides were very concerned and had some 

words with The pinata naturalists for sending us out in the slightly too. 

[00:36:33] Jeff: Especially if they had just said previously that we really shouldn't do this.

[00:36:37] Heather: Yeah. 

[00:36:38] Dan: To be fair from the video that they made not made for you. They other groups 

[00:36:44] Heather: You 

[00:36:44] Dan: Did look incredible. 

[00:36:46] Heather: Did you notice that there was no video from our excursion in 

[00:36:50] Jeff: Yeah. 

That's that video is a liability 

[00:36:53] Heather: That's correct. Yeah. That's so another cool thing about an expedition cruise is that not only do you have your normal adventure guides, but you have naturalists on board who are all experts on 

penguins and whales and


And one of the really amazing things we did was 

sail into an active volcano, which I didn't even know was a thing you can do. 

There's a, it looks like a ring of 

islands and it's actually 

a an active volcano. The active part of course is all under the 

sea. So he couldn't see any of that, but


[00:37:26] Dan: Was there a super villains layer in the 

[00:37:28] Heather: I'm pretty sure. 

[00:37:30] Jeff: that's man is saying island.

[00:37:32] Heather: Yep. And that week 

we got out on and we, they took us to the edge and we walked up to 

the top to walk down a crater of a volcano, 

which is very cool 

black sand psych in Hawaii, slightly cold. 

Then Hawaii, 

[00:37:46] Jeff: Really. 

[00:37:47] Heather: yeah, all told it was 

12 spectacular days. 

[00:37:53] Jeff: So the temperature when you were there was like what Twenties, and thirties? Tins and teens and twenties. 

[00:37:59] Heather: and thirties. There were a couple of mornings when we 

were out on little Zodiac 


where the wind chill was closer to zero. But at summer, so



[00:38:09] Jeff: Yeah. 

[00:38:10] Heather: and the 

[00:38:10] Jeff: It looks absolutely beautiful, but I don't like the getting there part sucks and I'm not active 

[00:38:15] Heather: I thought that. 

the getting there part was actually fun. A lot of people disagreed with me, but I liked it.

[00:38:20] Jeff: It. took you two days even to get to the sailing part. 

[00:38:23] Heather: Yes, it's true. The penguins thought it was too hot when it was 30 out. It was funny. You'd see them just like laying there panting like a dog, 


[00:38:33] Jeff: Spread out.

[00:38:34] Heather: yep. It's so 

hot out 

[00:38:36] Jeff: to cool down? 

[00:38:37] Heather: I have so many 

great videos of penguin

swimming and jumping in the water and just up close, 

the photos are incredible. 

[00:38:45] Dan: That's what I was saying to Kendra. Like you're already a pretty good photographer, but it's like between the wildlife that close to you and the landscape is so 

beautiful. It's every person that goes there just magically becomes a national

[00:39:00] Jeff: yeah, it would be hard to 

[00:39:01] Heather: for sure. 

[00:39:02] Jeff: there.

[00:39:03] Heather: And the

I just got actually just a few hours ago. I was looking at, so I'd one of the 

things that's cool about adventures by Disney is all of the adventure guides are 

taking photos the whole time too. And you get all of

those for free. It's included. 

[00:39:16] Jeff: Yeah, they do that on every 

[00:39:18] Heather: And everyone. And so I, so 

there's, they're taking photos and they're getting pictures of you and of the wildlife and stuff from angles you might 

not have gotten in.

They're so incredible. And a 

great thing about is they also have onboard a 

professional team of photographers and videographers. And these are

like Nat geo level skilled photographers. they, you can buy the video and the photo that 

photos that they took. And it was 

very inexpensive. I think it was, I paid $50

for the whole thing, all the photos and the video that I showed 


guys. And it's incredible. It's really 

[00:39:55] Dan: That's less than you pay for a 20 minutes photo session at 

[00:39:59] Heather: It's cheaper than capture the magic at Walt 

Disney world. Yeah. 

And it's so much, it's much, better quality. 

They also gave us 

this really cool topographical map of the

whole journey showing where you started and where you 

ended. and it's definitely, 

It's a trip of a lifetime. It's something I never 

expected that I would be 

able to 


I'd never even realized I 

wanted to do it until the 

opportunity came up and then it was heck yeah. I 

want to go to the 

bottom of planet

[00:40:26] Jeff: Also Dan roll tape on her saying she does not want to take a cold vacation cause she lives where it's cold. 

[00:40:33] Heather: this was going to 

come up. Hey, I did mention that it was warmer in Antarctica than it 


[00:40:38] Jeff: oh, Yeah, 


[00:40:39] Dan: Attest to that. Yeah, it was not warm that 

[00:40:42] Heather: Yeah so, pretty. And actually we saw a lot of different landscapes the night that I didn't even know were down 

there. I 

expected everything to just be ice and white and 


[00:40:52] Jeff: Yeah. And what y'all were inside that KV area thing that looked like you're on Mars 

[00:40:58] Heather: really cool, we went on these little cruises through these very cool caves.

And when we were in the volcano, it was, you're 

seeing brown and 

green and just different colors.

I wasn't expecting to

see down there. I saw a lot of wildlife that lives down there that I just it's crazy to me. How much wildlife is down 


[00:41:19] Jeff: And why are they there?

[00:41:21] Heather: And

[00:41:21] Dan: Why did they choose 

[00:41:22] Heather: we ate some of it too. One of the, one of the dinners we had was Antarctic crab and it was 

really good. 

[00:41:29] Jeff: Ah, 

[00:41:30] Heather: of my favorite things that I ate. 

[00:41:31] Dan: no seal flipper 

[00:41:33] Heather: No seal flipper. I did not. 

[00:41:35] Jeff: seal flipper. 

[00:41:37] Dan: Yeah, 

[00:41:37] Heather: was 


Brittany and I both

[00:41:39] Jeff: I had forgotten that it was so long 

[00:41:41] Heather: it was the gross things they eat in Iceland, not the same thing. The food was wonderful. What, Brittany and I were wondering about halfway through the ship, we're thinking 

a trip we're thinking, 

There's nowhere that they have stopped to restock.

So we really wanted to see the galleys on this thing. There, there 

had to 

[00:41:59] Jeff: By the last day or two, you're just, 

eating canned SpaghettiOs. 

[00:42:02] Heather: we, you know what, we were expecting that 

there would be a lot of 

pasta, but at the end of the trip, thinking that 

they'd be out of meat and fish and whatnot, but they weren't. Yeah, it was 


good. There were, there was not very much fresh 

fruit at the end of

the trip. However, it 



[00:42:19] Jeff: What a surprise? 

[00:42:20] Heather: Shocking. 

[00:42:20] Dan: What you can do with freeze-drying food these

[00:42:23] Heather: Yeah.

[00:42:24] Jeff: It's impressive because there's no refueling 

[00:42:27] Heather: No, none. There's nowhere to 

[00:42:28] Jeff: seekers use, they refuel it. Every port they restock and every 

[00:42:32] Heather: yeah. And

[00:42:34] Jeff: the poopers. 

[00:42:35] Heather: yeah, and every single one of your meals is included. on this trip, all alcohol, everything 

you're, you don't eat the 

gratuities for the guides and the staff, all of that. is included. There was we, there were a couple of optional extras that we did choose to do that love photo package that 

I mentioned and the sea kayaking. 

[00:42:55] Jeff: And the upgraded beverage 

[00:42:57] Heather: yes. But I will

say that I wouldn't

recommend someone do the sea kayaking, even if you are really great at kayaking, 

because it's not 

in addition to one of your landings it's in 

place of, 

and the landings and the Zodiac cruises are So cool in and of themselves that you don't need


[00:43:17] Jeff: that's for people that just want to do it for the, adventure 

[00:43:20] Heather: Yes, exactly. And I wish we, our day had been the day that was on the calm waters, through 

all of the IC cool 

stuff in the 

video that looked like it probably was a lot of fun, but the landing that we 


that day was my favorite one. So 

at the same 

time, I'm glad it didn't replace 

that. We hiked up to the top of just this spectacular

glacier and just sat up there for a while, looking 

around and just being amazed at where you are.

It was 

really incredible and I would 100% do it 

again. I absolutely, 

[00:43:57] Jeff: Yeah, I do that from the 

top of bay lake tower.

[00:44:00] Heather: I liked that too, but and it made me want to go on the expedition to the Arctic 


[00:44:06] Jeff: I think I'd go on that one. I'd do that. 

[00:44:09] Dan: some caribou, 

[00:44:10] Heather: And, the thing about, 

I've said that it's very 

active and it is but 

there were opportunities for less active and it was 

still be just as incredible. There were unfortunately, because it was, we were the beginning of the Olympics, one of the adventures by Disney things that they were doing while we were on 

board and the Drake

passengers having fun little Olympic games. 

[00:44:32] Dan: Y your pitching 


[00:44:33] Heather: yes. And unfortunately one of the guests heard himself in that, on the way to Antarctica, he tore something in his knee. 

[00:44:42] Dan: oh no. 

[00:44:43] Heather: And so he was on crutches, the rest of 

the trip. Yeah. So

[00:44:49] Dan: do you get a free trip in order to 

[00:44:51] Heather: Yeah. so 

he was not hiking up glaciers, but he still got to do the landing. 

[00:44:57] Jeff: He could get in and out of the Zodiac. 

[00:44:59] Heather: they, yeah, they helped him 

because there's always, there's a, there's somebody on the deck and somebody in the boat and they take, each of them takes one of your arms and helps 

you in.

It was super 

easy. It was like walking down a couple of 


[00:45:13] Jeff: I've seen use tumbled down steps, 

[00:45:15] Heather: it, was very easy. I 

never tripped, but so 

he still was able to do the landings. It's just, he 



down on the beach and not climbing up the glacier. 

[00:45:27] Jeff: I would've been with him to make sure he was okay. 

[00:45:29] Heather: Yes. And there's still tons and tons of 

wildlife on the 

beach. You weren't missing anything. If you didn't want to 

make those hikes and climbs. Some of the hikes we did were very long 

uphill. The longest one was about two miles, a two mile loop, which was really fun. And I loved it, but there were a lot of people who didn't do it, who just stayed down on the 

beach with, a million penguins 

[00:45:51] Jeff: Yeah. That's not bad for 

[00:45:53] Heather: it's really not.

And and that's where all the seals are. The seals are not up on the glacier. I was surprised at how many of the penguins 

hop all the way up 

to the top of the glacier.

And I 

[00:46:04] Jeff: Oh, what else are they 

going to do? 

[00:46:05] Heather: I, if you've seen video of a 

penguin, it is, it's absolutely that 

entertaining to watch them walk 


[00:46:12] Dan: They look like a bunch of little drunken toddlers. 

[00:46:15] Heather: are, and you're starting to feel bad about yourself. If you're, 

Slipping on the ice or falling in the snow and then you see the penguins doing it 

and they'll face plant, and then they'll just go, oh, I meant to do 

that and slide down on their 


[00:46:29] Jeff: What was it? We discovered the Korean word for penguin translates 

[00:46:34] Heather: Chinese. Yes.

[00:46:36] Jeff: business goose 

[00:46:38] Dan: That's gotta be a lie. I can't be free.

[00:46:41] Jeff: that Googles 


[00:46:43] Heather: It is 

busy business goose. They're so 

cute. I love them. And I get mad at the 

mean seabirds who steal their 



But we saw

penguin chick hatch out of an egg right in front of me. 

[00:46:56] Jeff: And then get eaten right 

[00:46:57] Heather: no thank goodness. He did not get eaten, but I did see so 


baby pig, skinny.

[00:47:03] Jeff: and that was just by JJ.

[00:47:05] Heather: And then I had to watch it again on the video. 

[00:47:08] Dan: Oh, yeah. 

[00:47:09] Heather: Did you see that? 

Did you like 

[00:47:11] Jeff: send me that 

[00:47:12] Dan: my kids loved that part also. 

[00:47:14] Heather: they? I just discovered some more photos of it on 

the photo real. So I'll send those 

over to, to,

[00:47:21] Dan: Oh, good. Yeah, go. This. There's nothing more fun than traumatizing my kids, 

[00:47:25] Heather: Hey, it's the circle of life the seabirds 

have to eat too. 

Yeah. And the sea lions tried to 

eat me. 

[00:47:33] Jeff: So all in all, you would do it again. 

[00:47:35] Heather: I would 100% do it 

again. And I would absolutely recommend to other people who have, 

If it's ever something you 

thought maybe I'd 

like to 

[00:47:43] Jeff: many of these did they do 

this year? I know there's a short window. They 

[00:47:46] Heather: there is a very short window Disney. This was the very first 

time adventures by Disney did expedition cruising. And there were only two. One left at the end of December and ours was the end of 

January. And I talked to a lot of the guides that did the, all the venture guys were on 

both. And they really preferred the January sailing because you're 

further into summer. And our weather was 

absolutely spectacular.

[00:48:11] Jeff: Yeah, it looked awesome. 

[00:48:12] Heather: We had some days where just beautiful 

sunshine, and they said the December trip, the weather 

wasn't as good. It was mostly foggy and it was 

colder. So I really, I highly 

recommend that 

did the January, once I 

believe for next year,

there are three sailings scheduled, one or two in December and one or two 




[00:48:30] Jeff: and is the north the Arctic version? Is it also a sailing?

[00:48:35] Heather: it is also a sailing. It is also on pennant 


that happens in our 

summer. So that at summer time as well in the 

[00:48:43] Jeff: the ag would love to escape Alabama summer and go 

[00:48:46] Heather: Yes. And in that version, polar bears 


reindeer and 

[00:48:52] Jeff: yeah, 

that'd be cool. Santa 

[00:48:53] Heather: it goes to the north pole. 

That one is round trip out of 

Norway. It looks really 

great. I would love to do that one.

It looks 

[00:49:02] Jeff: Yeah. 

[00:49:03] Heather: and it's in the 

summer, so it still 


cool up there, but it's not as cold as it would be if you went to the 

Arctic circle 

[00:49:09] Jeff: And can I fly a drone there? 

[00:49:11] Heather: That's a 

very good question. Cause you cannot in 


[00:49:15] Jeff: in NRD, but that's that makes sense there. 

[00:49:17] Heather: I'll have to look into 

that for you and see 

that would sway you to head to the north 


[00:49:22] Jeff: I'll go 

to the north hall. I just didn't want all that sailing. 

[00:49:26] Heather: It's there is no Drake passage. You don't 

have to do any of that. You fly into Oslo, Norway, and you're already really close. 

[00:49:35] Jeff: Yeah.

My parents went to the north pole and all around in that area. 

[00:49:39] Heather: And they use the same 

The same company. They charter a 



It's the sister ship to the one that I was on. So it's a beautiful ship. Really nice.

[00:49:49] Jeff: That ship for those that don't know it was the pennant cyst.

[00:49:53] Heather: That's not what it was called. 

The ship that we were on was called. 


[00:49:56] Jeff: oh, 

[00:49:57] Heather: Yes. And the one that's the one 

[00:50:00] Jeff: write that down real quick. Now. 

[00:50:01] Dan: I was worried that Heather, wasn't going to get a, get to bust out her fancy ass, French

[00:50:06] Jeff: It was the 

[00:50:06] Dan: this episode. 

[00:50:07] Heather: the little leery all for the Americans. 

[00:50:11] Dan: Oh, there you go. Why didn't you say some of the first 

[00:50:13] Heather: Sorry. And the one that they sailed to the Arctic is the LA boreal 

[00:50:19] Jeff: no. What is it really called? 

That one's easier than

[00:50:23] Dan: That's my sh it sounds much 

[00:50:24] Heather: And so we did not get to see the Southern lights on this 

trip because we were going in the summer 

and it's 24 

[00:50:33] Jeff: There are Southern lights. 

[00:50:35] Heather: there are.

Yeah. But 

[00:50:38] Jeff: Rory 

[00:50:39] Heather: yeah, it's 

still a rural Borealis, I believe.


But you can only 


them in Antarctica's winter because that's when it's dark it's light outside 24 hours a day in the 

summer, so you can't see them. But the Northern lights on their 

Arctic sailing, you will get to see that,

[00:50:55] Jeff: I am today years old hearing about Southern lights.

[00:50:59] Dan: They're the Aurora Australia's. 

[00:51:02] Heather: Ah, thank you. 

[00:51:04] Dan: Yes.

[00:51:05] Heather: We did not see 

them. And it was funny because that, so you have these daily briefings where the naturalists tell you what you're going to see the next day and, tell you about the 

wildlife and stuff.

And the very first briefing he said, so 

what does everybody want to see?

One dude said a polar bear.

It's sorry, 

[00:51:21] Jeff: miles 

[00:51:22] Heather: we're not

going to see any polar bears. Another person 

said the Northern lights and he was like, okay first of all, it's the Southern 


And no. we won't see them because it's going to be light outside 24 

hours a day.

Someone said Santa 

Claus, I


that they

booked the wrong cruise. 

[00:51:41] Jeff: tell me you didn't read the description of the trip. 

[00:51:44] Heather: Do you think you're going to the north pole because 

we're going 

to the south pole. Yeah. 

[00:51:50] Jeff: there actually a pole? I imagine it looks like a barber's pole.

[00:51:54] Heather:

[00:51:54] Dan: does. Yes. There is an, it does. 


[00:51:57] Jeff: Okay. 

[00:51:58] Dan: Yeah. 

[00:51:58] Heather: We didn't get that far south on 

this trip. We did not go to the south pole. 

[00:52:03] Jeff: Oh, but you do go to the north pole on 

[00:52:05] Heather: Yes, you do. 

[00:52:07] Jeff: All right. 

[00:52:07] Heather: The south pole is much

harder to get to because it's in the middle of the Antarctic continent. So you can't sail to it. 

[00:52:14] Jeff: So You can't sail through land is 

[00:52:16] Heather: no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, 

[00:52:18] Dan: And if I'm not mistaken, I think that the south pole that you can visit is not the actual pole. It's just a, 

[00:52:26] Heather: it's

[00:52:26] Dan: it's not the actual geographic pole. It's a pole? that they were like, oh, this is close enough. This is too hard to get the rest of the way. We'll just put this here and nobody's

going to know the 

[00:52:36] Heather: out it's really difficult to get down there. 



[00:52:39] Jeff: Yeah. They put us so far away.

[00:52:41] Heather: They did

[00:52:42] Jeff: They really should've put it in, I don't know,

[00:52:44] Heather: Mexico.

[00:52:45] Dan: It

must be cool to live in a place for like outside. Is your issue refrigerator though. 

[00:52:51] Heather: Yeah, all year round, there was snow even though it was warm for that time of year. And the penguins thought it was too hot, it was 


[00:52:59] Jeff: But weird that there's snow because it's So dry. 

[00:53:01] Heather: and it was cool. Our very first landing, 

it started snowing and it was

[00:53:07] Jeff: Is it real snow or is It like, frozen missed coming from the sea spray?

[00:53:12] Heather: it seemed like it was real 

snow when it was snowing.

[00:53:15] Jeff: Yeah, but there's all that water in the 

air then 

[00:53:18] Heather: There were a couple of days. Yeah, there were a 

couple of days when we were sailing that it was, there was 

snow on my balcony of the ship. So maybe that was frozen sea 

spray. That 


[00:53:27] Jeff: Yeah. That's crazy to be, sailing where it's snowy. it just feels wrong. 

[00:53:31] Heather: and we would sit out on the balcony and watch the icebergs float past. It was really cool. 

[00:53:36] Jeff: Hello. 

[00:53:37] Heather: Yeah. It did not say. 

[00:53:39] Jeff: If you'd like to go 

[00:53:40] Heather: I highly recommend it. Yeah. Let's get the let's. Let's charter an adventures by Disney expedition to Antarctica. What do you 


[00:53:49] Dan: Done and done.

[00:53:50] Heather: Yes. Oh, darn it. How about to the Arctic? Will you go there. 

[00:53:55] Jeff: perhaps, but Yes, 

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[00:54:56] Jeff: And the best 

[00:54:57] Heather: Hi, y'all 

[00:54:58] Jeff: There's no flows. 

[00:55:00] Heather: none. 

[00:55:01] Dan: flows. There's ice flows.

[00:55:04] Jeff: Shut up.